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Re: I wonder where he got the scans from?
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Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:35:37 GMT
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Sorry for the late reply, but...
I don't think it is illegal to buy or sell CDs with Lego instructions
scans - I've bought six such CDs from various sources. Unlike video tapes
which all have the FBI warning and software which always has the user
agreement, Lego has a fairness policy. In selling the scans on CDs, the
seller is not doing anything illegal (or unfair) as long as the scans are of
discontinued or sets otherwise not readily available. These CDs have been
sold on eBay, RTL and elsewhere in the past, and I have never heard of Lego
doing anything to stop it, so why should eBay? In my eyes, these scans are
most like shareware (nobody owns them - Lego has seemingly relinquished
ownership, in a way) - and if the guy selling them thinks the time and money
he has spent in compiling and distributing the CD is worth $10, $20 or more,
then that is what he should charge for the CD. Thats all I have to say
about that.
--
Have fun!
John
Auctions and Trading and More at my Lego site:
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
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ig88888888@stlnet.com & IG88888888 on AOL
Michael Huffman wrote in message <3802815E.C99355CF@mindspring.com>...
> Kevin Loch wrote:
>
> > Here is the response from Ebay:
> >
> > We have reviewed the auction you have brought to our attention and taken
> > appropriate action. We would also like to explain eBay's policy with
> > respect to reports like yours. eBay is not in a position to make
> > judgments about the authenticity or authorized nature of auction items,
> > except in the most extreme circumstances. This may mean that we cannot
> > remove the item about which you contacted us.
>
> [snip rest of canned response]
>
> What the hell is up with eBay? This doesn't sound like them. There
> was an auction that I bid on that was a pirated copy of a movie, but
> it didn't "sound" like it was pirated in item's description; though
> it didn't deny it either -- I think eBay was tipped off by another
> bidder & eBay didn't hesitate to can the auction... I wonder by
> what criteria that they choose to can one auction & not another; then
> they claim not to be "in a position to make judgments"; no body
> in their right mine would say "Pirated CD/Movie for sale".
>
> Hmm... interesting stance that eBay is taking; hiding behind vague
> legalized statements.
>
> --Mike.
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| (...) I don't mean to be harsh, but this attitude is very likely to make TLG reconsider their very liberal fair-use policy. I've got issues with the trademark/domain clause, which I'm sure you've all heard. But I think the copyright part is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: I wonder where he got the scans from?
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| Your analysis is completely wrong. Selling scan CD's is clearly illegal and asking for trouble. public distribution of ANY instruction or catalog scan (regardless of age) is an infringement of copyright. The fact that TLG has passively allowed my (...) (25 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: I wonder where he got the scans from?
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| Is this the CD that had instructions for "fan created" (or something like that) models too? If it is that raises a big question for me...what would I have to do to prevent some jerk from making money off of my published DAT files. I'm NOT against (...) (25 years ago, 28-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) [snip rest of canned response] What the hell is up with eBay? This doesn't sound like them. There was an auction that I bid on that was a pirated copy of a movie, but it didn't "sound" like it was pirated in item's description; though it (...) (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.general)
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