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Re: Has Babylon Fallen?
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Date: 
Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:59:10 GMT
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I think there are two main issues, one technical and one social.

The technical. The need to confirm all the postings was introduced at a time
when there was a problem of people posting under other people's identities.
Maybe then this heavy-handed solution may have made sense, but maybe we
could try making it easier to post again (speaking as an NNTP user). This is
a problem very specific to LUGnet.

The social. The different groups in LUGnet represent in some sense different
communities. However, these communities could not effectively control the
group they met within. Outsiders of the group could come in and complain
about the language/content of postings. Other people widely regarded within
the group as irritants could not be blacklisted. So these groups tended to
find it easier to go off to create new forums in the hope of leaving behind
the problem people. The whole point of creating a new forum is that you get
to set the rules and have the arbitrary administrative power :-)

This social problem not is specific to LUGnet. We don't yet have good
technical solutions to enable a group within a larger forum to act in some
"democratic" way to control its membership. My personal theory (FWIW) is
that there needs to be some automated way of characterising people's
participation in a group to establish if they are a "regular" group member.
Then allow people to "blacklist" a problem person in their group. If
"enough" blacklisting of a user occurs, all "regular" members are then asked
to vote on suspending the problem person from that group (but not
necessarily from other groups within the forum). If a person is suspended
from "enough" groups within a forum, then they are expelled from the forum
as a whole. Unlike a physical forum where people "cold-shoulder" the
unwelcome people and "freeze" them out, online forums don't have the same
range of options (currently).

Kerry



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  Re: Has Babylon Fallen?
 
(...) I think some method of preventing identity spoofing is a requirement for maintaining the integrity of any online forum. I use the web interface almost exclusively, so I've not found these systems as cumbersome as those who favor other posting (...) (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions)

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  Has Babylon Fallen?
 
Once there was a place whose inhabitants all spoke a common language. As a unified community, their combined strength gave them such confidence that they challenged God Himself. They lost, and were scattered to the four corners of the earth, no (...) (18 years ago, 21-Nov-06, to lugnet.general)

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