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Subject: 
A Change
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lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.announce
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lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators
Date: 
Thu, 8 May 2003 19:14:22 GMT
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.A Change
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(Not so much a` BIG change, but a `SMALL improvement!)


!An open letter to the Lugnet community and it’s creators:

I'm proposing that a change take place in our lovely Lugnet community.
Not a radical revolution, but simply just a retrograde reform!

As I've traversed the wonderful world-wide-web lately, I've been inclined
to post in many a diverse forum. This has opened my mind to the ways
and designs of different forums and discussion boards.

  This has led me to believe that Lugnets posting verification
procedure is an overcompensation to combat possible troll threats.
(It’s like we’re compromising too much of our freedoms
and liberties in the name of safety and protection)

  _No longer I say!
This is a community…
We are *“Citizens of the Brick!”
(*feel free to quote me on this.)

  Thus, as citizen we must demand greater freedoms.
But at the same time we must assume the responsibility of policing our selves.
(Please do save the rebuttals concerning the fact that Lugnet is a privately
owned venture, and thus not an actual liberal-democratic institution)

  Therefore, what I humbly suggest to my fellow citizens is that we attempt to
persuade our friends Suz and Todd to revert back to the !past! posting
procedures.   (sans the e-mail verification.)

  At this point in our communities development I believe we need to grow.
And I honestly think that our current posting procedure is hampering our
development.

(We’ve seriously lost a great deal of momentum since this procedure was
enacted, for proof compare the posting totals between years 2000 and 2001)
http://news.lugnet.com/people/?n=1396              (2900 posters in 2000)
http://news.lugnet.com/people/?n=2817              (2298 posters in 2001)
http://news.lugnet.com/people/?n=2818


Flashback:
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In times-past, there were certain individuals who caused flame-wars, stole
identities, and trolled news groups.
(They’ve long since vanished…but we’re still in ‘lock-down’ mode!)

Flash-forward:
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But this is the present!
Suz has cunningly chosen to delegate the powers of responsibility to individual
news group moderators. (therein, we are better able to manage our groups
affairs.)

With this balance of power, the curators/creators of Lugnet need no longer
read and scrutinize each post for possible problems.

That is why I believe _NOW_ is the time to allow greater posting freedoms…
…like before…when idle chat was the norm and the free-flow of ideas wasn’t
limited to how many times you wanted to check your e-mail account.

  What I hope to accomplish twofold:
Initially I'd really like to here what others think.
And secondly, if a concession should be reached we create a change for the
BETTER!


I appreciate y’all taking the time to listen to my ideas,



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Message has 8 Replies:
  Re: A Change
 
Wow - that was the hardest post to read in a text terminal. SO MANY MS-specific characters, it's like half the post was '?' signs! for instance: (...) wow. Dan (posted via email auth. big deal, imo) (22 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
  Re: A Change
 
(...) I don't think this is the way... I'd much prefer seeing something such as authenticated NNTP, although I'm not sure if/how to set something like that up. (22 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp)
  Re: A Change
 
Time for me to play devil's advocate... (...) At the risk of sounding elitist, I point out that the "citizens" of Lugnet are arguably the paying members. As a member who posts exclusively via the web interface, I have no knowledge of the difficult (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators)
  Re: A Change
 
(...) I've always kind of thought this was a bit harsh as well-- My own preference would be either more automated and/or voluntary. Effectively, a voluntary system would entail the default to be 'on', and if you want to turn off authentication, (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.admin.curators)
  Re: A Change
 
(...) I won't lie, if the email verification system was removed I would likely post more, well, more respond to more threads anyway. but I can completely understand why this system is in place. if there is a way of provide similar protection by (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators)
  Re: A Change
 
(...) in 2001 and simply didn't have internet access. I've been on and off for about a year myself. I've been unable to login for so long now, that I've forgotten if things actually were better. (22 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators)
  Re: A Change
 
(...) The certain individual has vanished from LUGNET because of the improved security. He was still bad-mouthing LUGNET over on RTL as of this post: (URL) Mall is back: (URL) TOWN PLANNING information: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Guild of (...) (22 years ago, 9-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators)
  Re: A Change
 
If you are a paid member, you can post all you like using the web interface without email authentication. Only NNTP/email users require the email authentication if they are paid members. --Bill. (22 years ago, 12-May-03, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.curators)

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