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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Dan Boger writes:
> Wow - that was the hardest post to read in a text terminal. SO MANY
> MS-specific characters, it's like half the post was '?' signs!
>
> for instance:
>
> > Flashback:
> > ????????
> > In times-past, there were certain individuals who caused flame-wars, stole
> > identities, and trolled news groups.
> > (They?ve long since vanished?but we?re still in ?lock-down? mode!)
>
> wow.
>
> Dan
>
> (posted via email auth. big deal, imo)
Hi,
I'm using the ISO-8859-1 (Latin 1) superset; and I bet that every
newsreader written or updated in the last five years can handle that too.
But usually only Windows machines can handle the additional characters in
Codepage 1252.
I dont do this to mess with other peoples documents appearance.
I jus like to use the spell-check function in Word!
Seriously, it isn't easy to know which special characters will be readable by
nearly everyone if you or your localization knows how to generate those
characters (e.g. 'Milton Train Works™' can't be read by everyone, while '1.0
± 0.2' should be fine.)
--==Richard==--
Special thanx to Mr. Clark for the details:
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=10534
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| (...) How should anything know that your message is using this "codepage 1252"? The message headers specify that you're using the standard iso-8859-1 charset -- but you're not. You've got a bunch of characters using mappings that are reserved for (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| (...) huh, funny how that works. I'm running mutt that was compiled on April 20th, 2003. So yes, I'm sure it _can_ handle all the current standards. (...) you mean only windows machines ignore the standards, and show characters that don't really (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| Wow - that was the hardest post to read in a text terminal. SO MANY MS-specific characters, it's like half the post was '?' signs! for instance: (...) wow. Dan (posted via email auth. big deal, imo) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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