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| | | (copy to be posted to rec.toys.lego as well) In my recent post to raise interest and cross pollinate between Rec.Models.Railroad, I called James Mathis a master builder, because I think some of his stuff is really really good. I bet most of us could (...) (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Marshall
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| | | | | I like this idea a lot, also it may be a good idea to vote for people who should be a MM. I think it is a great idea, but what is LMDC? (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —James Brown
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| | | | | (...) Umm - Is it just me or do relatively few of those catagories actually involve building? It's fairly obvious that anyone who makes 3/4 of that list is going to be a certified maniac, but it seems to me, at least, as though there should be a (...) (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) YES! This in fact is what the NMRA Master Modeler has to do... you have to make models of locomotives, of trackside structures, of passenger, and of freights, as well as demonstrate ability to do scenery (Or at least, several of these... I (...) (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Lego (...) After I posted this, I thought of another building criteria that is (IMO) very stringent - as per the above, but using no _more_ than n pieces. (...) want (...) Good question. I don't think it's something that needs 'proactive (...) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | | (...) A good idea, but it seems somewhat too merit badge-ish. I can see certain people doing things they otherwise never would have done, and will never do again, just to check off one more item on your list. Do you really want to encourage people (...) (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) No, I don't. I agree with you that it should not be merit badge-ish. I tried to address this by a) offering alternatives: N pages OR CLSotW. You can win CLSotW with just one page if it's cool enough. (consider the CNC machine. That site was (...) (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | | | (...) Point taken, although I see nothing wrong with limiting it just to CLSotW winners, particularly since (with the 3/4 rule) that wouldn't even be a necessary qualification. But allowing the N page alternative, as if that were in some way (...) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I think you're on to something here. Honors for service, honors for body of work. Separate things. I dug up the NMRA reference: (URL) describes the Achievement Program, as well as the Master Model Railroader designation. Interesting reading. (...) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | | | (...) The more I think about this, the more appropriate it seems. At this entry level, the objective is primarily to encourage activity, not to reward achievement, so why not let it be merit badgy? Most of the web sites people create specifically to (...) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —David Zorn
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| | | | Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <36859FD2.7B642084@c...AM.com>... :(copy to be posted to rec.toys.lego as well) : :We don't have an official body or anything, and probably won't for some :time. But could we do something like a Master Modeler? With (...) (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jim Baker
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| | | | Also sprach Janet Zorn: : Based on the snip below from RTL, I recommend that there be a : disqualifying criterion for online conduct inconsistent with the : promotion of the hobby. Profanity in RTL or Lugnet has no place in the : promotion of a (...) (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | Janet's point was that someone was rude, crude and disrespectful. This kind of behavior doesn't fit with the spirit of RTL. I'm not saying foul language automatically disqualifies someone, but when it is uncalled for (as it was in that situation), (...) (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jim Baker
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| | | | Also sprach Jeff Stembel: : P.S. When did you take crap for any of your sig files? I get a kick out of : almost every one, and I can't remember anything wrong in any of them. (Althoug : my memory is faulty, so I could be mistaken) I have a (...) (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Verdier
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| | | | Beaker wrote in message ... (...) Boy do I agree with you. Every time a certain Lego enthusiast tries to insist that RTL is a family newsgroup I have to bite my tongue. I am a relative newcomer to RTL compared to Todd, Jeff Crites and some of the (...) (26 years ago, 29-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —David Zorn
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| | | | Matthew Verdier wrote in message ... :Beaker wrote in message ... : :>I have a libertarian philosophy, and thus a lot of my sigs have drug :>humor, ... I also have a couple that use profanity, and I am :>equally unapologetic. I maintain that the (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jim Baker
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| | | | | Also sprach Janet Zorn: : And Beaker, I share your libertarian philosophy. Since when did the : libertarian philosophy become an excuse for "as nasty as they want to : be"? There is a difference between liberty and licentiousness. To me, the heart (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | This isn't exactly where I wanted this conversation to go, I think there are other, more important issues to thrash out, but I certainly don't OWN it, it will go where it will. That said, the following contributes to the tangentiality problem: I'll (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) I would as well. (...) Yep. Petition anyone? (...) No flaws? :) -Tim <>< (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Marshall
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| | | | | | | | Profanity is only considered profanity because one or two people thought it was offensive. I mean the f-word(1) is simply a noun, a descriptive word. Like BFC, All they our nouns, Any word can be used to belittle or offend someone, i.e. You Redcoat, (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | (...) You **must** add this to your random sig generator! Brilliant! (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jim Baker
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| | | | | | Also sprach Richard Dee: :> 'Profanity is a linguistic crutch for ignorant motherf*****s.' : You **must** add this to your random sig generator! Brilliant! Already done. You'll see it eventually. I can't believe it wasn't in there already. Clearly (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Verdier
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| | | | | Janet Zorn wrote in message ... (...) Personally, I think it is unhealthy to isolate your children from the world. Too much isolation leaves them unprepared to make the hard choices they are going to have to make throughout the course of their (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | | Matthew Verdier wrote in message ... (...) Think it through, Matthew. Do you want to shield your children from the world... of paedophilia? of addictive drugs? of bungie jumping? At what point do you personally think it's reasonable to limit a (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Verdier
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| | | | | | | | Moz (Chris Moseley) wrote in message ... (...) world. (...) are (...) Ok, here we go. I don't have any kids. (Ducking to protect myself from the legions of people who are going to tackle me for spouting opinions I have no right to because I have no (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) Below is a snippet from the Terms of Use for lugnet.com. Someone who is in violation of these terms runs the risk of being kicked off the system. Depending on the nature of violation, someone may need to be kicked off instantly with no further (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jim Baker
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| | | | | | | | | Also sprach Todd Lehman: : 5. Post or transmit any unlawful, threatening, abusive, libelous, : defamatory, obscene, vulgar, pornographic, profane, or indecent : information of any kind, including without limitation any : transmissions constituting (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | (...) <snip> (...) LUGmaster, Would any of the above include posts of people's names who have not paid or delivered with regards to auctions or sales? Defamation in a dictionary of which I looked had two out of its three definitions not mentioning (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | | | | (...) I won't speak for Larry (whose idea this was in the first place), but that's certainly nothing like anything I ever had in mind, and if that's what this thing degenerates into, I'll call it a failure and move on. Do you believe that the (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —James Brown
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —James Brown
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'm involved (running, actually) a local 'social club' based around a completely different hobby, but the basics are the same, regardless of where the special interest lies. The biggest single thing that a group can do to avoid the 'elitism' (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Although I could be dissuaded, I would prefer that the membership not be open absolutely, but that there be some minimal qualification that practically anyone could meet with some minor effort, perhaps any one item from an expanded version of (...) (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Verdier
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| | | | | | | | Steve Jacquot wrote in message <368A4443.41C6@kali....ia.edu>... (...) dole (...) interpersonal (...) what. (...) I tend to be cynical, and distrust organizations in general. A random sampling of webpages that focus on hobbies has led me to believe (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Stephen Jacquot
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| | | | | | | | Matthew Verdier wrote: r (...) For what it's worth, this is pretty much exactly what I had in mind (still not speaking for Larry). (...) I agree absolutely with respect to the merit awards. With respect to the service award, I can't say that (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) You're carrying on just fine. If this nascent idea cannot be implemented except as a popularity contest, I would oppose it. NMRA models are judged without names attached, and many of the MM criteria the NMRA put in place are at least partly (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) Personally, I find rasfwrj _more_ entertaining... I tend to skip the on-topic bits, tho. <recklessly thrown open robes and all> However, I think It's not quite so bad as it used to be, as far as ripping newbies apart is concerned. And, most of (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Matthew Verdier
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| | | | | | Jasper Janssen wrote in message <368b5bd8.140622427@...et.com>... (...) Perhaps that statement about rawsfrj wasn't completely fair of me to make. There just seems to be a whole lot of 'plonkin' going on, which tends to be a sign of an adversarial (...) (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) Well, yeah. But most plonks are actually temporary. As in, I'll give you another shot in a month or so. Unless of course, the person is either *very* offensive (ala: Come see my neonazi webpage! Which I recently saw somewhere... ewww.), or has (...) (26 years ago, 1-Jan-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation? —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) Please.... Don't presume to speak for me, OK? whether I am or am not interested in what kind of day he had, is not really for you to say. Thank you. Jasper (26 years ago, 31-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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