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Re: Lego(r) Master Maniac designation?
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Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:22:02 GMT
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Steve Jacquot wrote:

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

A good idea, but it seems somewhat too merit badge-ish.  I can see
certain people doing things they otherwise never would have done, and
will never do again, just to check off one more item on your list.  Do
you really want to encourage people to add pages of filler to their web
sites, just to meet your requirement 1?  Is that the kind of person you
want to honor?

No, I don't. I agree with you that it should not be merit badge-ish. I
tried to address this by
a) offering alternatives: N pages OR CLSotW. You can win CLSotW with
just one page if it's cool enough. (consider the CNC machine. That site
was about 6 images when it won, and it was truly a worthy winner IMHO) I
in fact thought of only allowing CLSotW winners without the N pages
qualifying possibility, but thought that was exclusionary.


Also, the criteria are in some ways too rigid - what about the people
who do things you've never imagined?  I'm thinking of someone like Pete
Storonskij, <http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/1267/mylego.html>
who might qualify in only a few of the categories you've listed, but is
certainly a master of his craft.  Should he have to jump through hoops
to qualify for recognition?

As LMM, yes. It means mastery of the craft. As Model of the Month,
definitely not (Model of the Month is selected by the editors of MR from
all the models sent them that month... by analogy, a committee elected
by current LMMS could select one each month)

Beyond that, (and as James Brown has pointed out in a parallel comment)
it seems that many of these criteria have less to do with modeling than
with service to the hobby. I like the idea of recognizing service, but
that might be a separate award, equally prestigious, or at least as
exclusive.

Yes.

Another issue is whether this should be differentiated by theme. It
seems to me that the skills of a master Technic/Mindstorms builder
are qualitatively different from the skills of a master of Everything
Else, and might properly be judged by different criteria or by a
different jury.

Yes.

Whether there is one kind of award or two (or more), I would suggest
that the selection process be structured more towards seeking out worthy
recipients, rather than encouraging people to put themselves forward,
and also that it be very selective, but not elitist.

Yes.

Perhaps selection
by open voting of no more than one or two recipients per year from a
short list of nominees proposed by a screening committee.  More like
the Oscars than any sort of Master's Guild, if that's what you had in
mind.

No, I don't agree there. I in fact am looking for a Master's Guild
rather than an Oscar type of thing. But this is just a bouncearound at
this point.

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(...) Point taken, although I see nothing wrong with limiting it just to CLSotW winners, particularly since (with the 3/4 rule) that wouldn't even be a necessary qualification. But allowing the N page alternative, as if that were in some way (...) (26 years ago, 28-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)

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(...) A good idea, but it seems somewhat too merit badge-ish. I can see certain people doing things they otherwise never would have done, and will never do again, just to check off one more item on your list. Do you really want to encourage people (...) (26 years ago, 27-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)

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