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(...) I'm not sure more complex combat systems are really the way to go. While I feel a combat system needs enough detail to make combat interesting, too much detail makes combats take too long. (...) with the core rules. Well, I will have to spend (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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I know a lot of people have reservations about the d20 system. It is far from perfect, and has its own peculiar brand of illogic (hey, paladin, why dont you put on the sorcerer's Cloak of Charisma so you can heal more damage) but still manages to do (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I think I agree with your analysis. (...) I'm still mulling about the idea of a brick oriented RPG, but I really feel like staying away from D20. If D20 was being published similar to GURPS where you have a genre agnostic core rule book and (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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I'm probably the last one to hear about this, but I just got a nice long e-mail from a guy named Jeffrey Schecter that clued me in to this thing Wizards of the Coast is doing, essentially giving free license to any Joe off the street to use Dungeons (...) (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Woo Hoo! 100 of 22498! -Rob. (22 years ago, 31-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Um, it seems that you didn't. But I have included them and set FUT there. (...) MS Excel which is what I've been playing with to try to engineer this system. (...) Ah...there's the key. Like you say, the curve is way too steep at +/-1. I think (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.gaming, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Geek warning: the following description is starting to get pretty geeky. I've set follow-ups to lugnet.off-topic.geek, see you there if you want to continue discussion... (...) Ok, First, for those who want to go into more depth of the math, you (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.gaming, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Frank, can you explain this in more detail? I've been trying to reconcile the bits that you mention into a roll-resolution system and I'm not getting it. When you talk about generating digits, I'm thinking that you're rolling d10s as you would (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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Hi all, I'd been playing with some ideas for an in-depth RPG based on LEGO. Then Frank Filz posted the note at (URL) which started a good thread on LEGO RPG issues. Included in that thread, was a note from Mike Rayhawk ( (URL) ) that got me thinking (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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I couldn't get my dinosaurs to stand securely to the box lid. ("(URL) I came up with an idea on how to make an insert into the top of the box lid, to make a more secure base for the dinosaurs to stand atop. (Incidentally, this makes a good island, (...) (22 years ago, 26-May-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.pirates, lugnet.build, lugnet.gaming)
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(...) This concept is in fact an integral part of my own current project. I have been designing rules for a Castle-specific PBB wargame in conjunction with building a display that is built both with the rules in mind and with the intent of just (...) (22 years ago, 20-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I didn't really mean to exclude anything, I really just meant to raise the idea that character advancement isn't really an absolute necessity. The game would be a lot simpler if it were left out; in any case, with only four possible ratings (...) (22 years ago, 20-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) This is a cool idea, but does it neccesitate no character advancement? Is the goal to just get away from the traditional RPG aspects, to simplify the rules, or something else? Would having both advancement mechanisms work? (...) So, the idea (...) (22 years ago, 20-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) One of the ideas I've been keeping on the back burner for BrikWars is a supplement for some kind of construction-campaign system. It's anybody's guess as to when (or if) this idea will ever get fleshed out, so I'd be just as happy to see it (...) (22 years ago, 20-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Well, I haven't totally bagged the idea, plus, I'm always interested in exploring game mechanics. (...) True. (...) Good advice. I really need to get my behind down to some of the gaming events at the local stores. (...) Hmm, construction (...) (22 years ago, 20-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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Hi Frank and all, I just got around to reading this thread and it seems that you've already decided to bag the idea, but I wanted to make some comments. (...) I think this is the heaviest question here. Everything else stems from how this is (...) (22 years ago, 19-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Rather than trying to "lego-ize" a game system, I would say just pick whatever game you and your friends want to play and use lego to augment it. My friends and I have been doing this for years. The first time was a 2nd edition AD&D campaign (...) (22 years ago, 18-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) When I ran a long term RQ campaign, what I did which eliminated the "ok, now I pull out my niblick and try and hit him with that" was to hand out a limited number of experience rolls. The I hit, he parries thing is a real problem though. (...) (...) (22 years ago, 17-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Dungeon scenarios don't have to be devoid of role playing. Actually, most of the Fantasy campaigns I have run have had a majority of the scenarios involve an underground or indoor location. Outdoor locations though can be the easiest to do if (...) (22 years ago, 17-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I'm coming to the conclusion "LEGOizing" a game system won't be worthwhile. (...) I'm not thinking of stacks, but two dimensional arrays laid out on a plate. I have been trending to using arrays of mark off boxes on character sheets with the (...) (22 years ago, 17-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Almost forgot - the other thing we used to do is build a whole bunch of dungeon 'modules' on the old green 10x20 bricks. We'd hide them under the table and asseble them together like dominoes as the players traveled further and further into (...) (22 years ago, 17-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) This is probably the single most important consideration, since there have been plenty of Lego-RPGs that have come and gone over the last couple of years that failed because they were just standard RPGs with Lego elements tacked on in a shoddy (...) (22 years ago, 17-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I can't comment really on Traveller because my only experience is with the original dreadful system (fun to roll up characters, and that was it). RuneQuest experience was all about mini-maxing. I hated it almost as much as I hated the endless (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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In lugnet.fun.gaming, James Brown writes: Oops - one snip too many, James is the single > (...) ...and Wargs, and Dragons, and Ents, and Hobbits, and Spiders, and Giants, and Elves, and Dwarves, and Really Big Eagles, and Sauron's Genetic (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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As a long time gamer I thought I would make a few suggestions (...) If you plan to play locally with friends, i recommend us 3rd edition D&D. If you want quicker and easier for convention play, I suggest using brik war rules for the combat and (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Hey, I do know what an RPG is okay. I do remember what a scenerio is. Earlier this month, I enegged in some discussion on IOM, and I do say, when it comes to discussing the merits and open-endness of these, some people get really defensive on (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Well, you're not supposed to actually use them all, though. ;) They have a vast variety so you can choose which ones you want to give your settings more of a real folklore/mythological feel. Like an Arabian setting? You can just choose the (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I find that games at cons are (obviously) one-off events, and I find one-off RPG's a bit lack-luster. They're great for introducing a new game or system, but I veiw RPG's as something that needs a time commitment to really enjoy; I want to see (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Yah. They certainly seem to have fun. :) I haven't looked at it too deeply, but the mechanics seem fairly clean. (...) Take a peek at Space Hulk. It's a board game spin-off of Warhammer, but it's got *good* two player good-guy/bad-guy balance. (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) No, Tactics Ogre!! :D *runs away* Jeff (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Well, I do enjoy designing games (I've been a game designer almost as long as I've been playing war games - shortly after getting Tactics II, I designed a new board for it, I started fiddling with D&D [the original Basic D&D in the blue cover] (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Having got interested in 7th Sea about the same time as LEGO, I certainly considered a connection there... Actually, I think my interest in LEGO Pirate ships may have been an influence on checking out 7th Sea (a demo game which I was actually (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I am probably looking for something primarily for gamers, but it would be nice to make it attractive for AFOLs. (...) Hmm, have you ever taken pictures of your games? (...) Well, I don't have a group yet, so basically, part of what I will be (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Interesting questions... ...and right up my alley too.... =) (...) Depends on how detailed you want the role-playing to be, and whether you want to design a game to accomodate that detail. *Time for a shameless plug (surprisingly the first (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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Matt Hein wrote: < snip > Tonight when I'm on my own time as opposed to my employers, I'm going to give all of the responses so far some additional thought. I did want to throw out one quick thing though... Matt (and I think at least one other (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Hmmm...a brick RPG? This sounds sweet, I would go about borrowing several aspects from other brick RPGs on the net, and adapting them to your respective tastes. (...) Definitely, I prefer Science Fiction, but Fantasy also works well, but try (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) I think a lot of these questions will answer themselves if you can answer one question: who is the game intended for? Lego fans, role-playing fans, or something in between? The more you intend it to be for Lego fans or one-off convention (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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Frank, this sounds like a game I would love to play. I'm such a visual person that I feel like I miss out in standard RPG's. I like them, but a hint of physical world like LEGO would be cool. Here are my suggestions to your questions posed: (...) (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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(...) Probably the simplest, but I suspect difficult to capture the "feel" of a brick built game. My wife is in a 7th Seas campaign that routinely uses my LEGO projects as sets and backdrops; it seems to work quite well, although they use metal (...) (22 years ago, 14-May-02, to lugnet.gaming)
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