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(...) metroliner but (...) a lot of (...) models to be (...) But, there are going to be some that you have to fix, jonathan. There were several models if I remember correctly that you used the "floating element" technique(how is that word supposed (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) i mean that for some of them i basicly made those subfiles which made positioning them easier... (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) that are (...) Explain what you mean by half and half. Also, sets that don't have submodels in the instructions don't requre submodels in the OMR files. (...) Ok, do what you can and submit those. I get the idea you have a lot of sets done in (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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i have several sets without sub models and some with submodels and some that are half and half. some would be a pain in the ass to re-do such as the metroliner but some may be able to be done... (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:199906211334.GA...omm.com... (...) Tim, I think the ideal is to have submodels separate, preferably in a .mpd file. But I think we should accept sets without submodels with the caveat that if (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) No, the entire minifig cannot be omitted. It is part of the set, and if the decorated element does not exist, the author is to use the plain version of that file and attach a comment in the errors.dat file or in the model itself. -Tim Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) (URL)2.do you have to have 0 step commands in the file? No. (...) file (...) Yes, you do. (...) Absolutely not. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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1.what was aggreed to as the final header format/filename convention? 2.do you have to have 0 step commands in the file? 3.do you have to put sub-models (e.g. the bogies on a train) in a seperate file if you do not want to/have not done so? 4.what (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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i think that if the torso for a minifig or an other important part is not available then the whole minifig and all accessories can be omitted. (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: MPD, the OMR, and Incomplete Parts
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Tim Courtney: (...) My MPD splitter never overwrites existing files - unless you set some flag I can't remember, so it should be safe. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) No, but "sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk" is not my e-mail address - even though some of my software clams that. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I agree on all points! I'm glad you finally understood me ;) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) positioned. They (...) a sub-model (...) place because (...) to detract (...) without using (...) you're trying (...) purpose of (...) help in this (...) submodel (to (...) nothing to (...) appears like (...) Yes, you are making more sense (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) You're making a lot more sense now. I understand better what you're trying to say and I agree with where you're coming from. Part of the purpose of the OMR is to provide 3d virtual instructions, so this would help in this case. They should not (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That makes sense. I think we should continue to follow this reasoning. (...) Sub-models are not only used so that they can be easily positioned. They are used to make following the instructions easier. Inlining a sub-model defeats the purpose (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I agree here. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Bram, I think the reason we would have a submodel for that submodel is because it is an official submodel. We would inline it because it is stationary; it can't be moved from where it is. Take a look at a scan of the instructions, it might help to (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) The point is if the submodel does not contain *any* moving parts, why make it a seperate model? Though we do have the available space filename-wise, it does seem kinda silly. But still, either way I guess is about the same thing. -Tim Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I don't see the point of inlineing any submodels unless they aren't official submodels. If the instructions use a submodel, why inline it? Seems like kind of a waste in making the submodel in the first place... --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:3767a2e5.193694...net.com... (...) Good incentive for people to learn part-making! Modeling the M:Tron line is what got me into doing parts. -John Van (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) But we need to severely minimize the number of incomplete sets. Read Ampi's post. Don't think that we can make anything and everything and put it up there, there must be standards. (...) Yep. (...) No. (...) Read my post on the final file (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Correct. (...) Good point. I like the readiness system. Should we have it relative to the number of pieces, so you divide the number of parts by the number of parts in the model to get the percentage? Also, you could multiply it by a certain (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) the (...) could (...) Repository. But on (...) errors - (...) large (...) anyways for (...) can strongly (...) Whatever works I guess :) I was thinking of it in a sense that as they are building the model and come across an unmade patterned (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) OK. You're going to have some funny-looking models, with all those missing parts. Steve (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney wrote in message <199906152252.PAA294...mm.com>... (...) decorated (...) unavailable (...) errors (...) My comments: If an OMR submission is not complete i.e. elements are missing, (even these are decorated elements, minifig (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Help Still Needed
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Tim Courtney schrieb: (...) if you like, I can also format my L2P/LGEO Tutorial to be included to ldraw.org. (...) I'll do what I can. But even as a student, i have a summer course, I have a job, and I have LGEO which eats a lot of my time, along (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Though convenient for us, inconvenient for them. As I noted it could discourage immediate submissions, which would help the Repository. But on the other hand it would be good for people to note their own errors - especially for us, so we don't (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) submitting to the (...) sure each file (...) instructions (...) reflect movable (...) unavailable decorated (...) if unavailable (...) submit an errors (...) release of the (...) different author (...) could think (...) with the (...) have the (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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We should develop rules for official model creating and submitting to the OMR. First off, we can't expect all submissions to follow our header/filename system. The model editors will have to make sure each file follows those rules. Here are my (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) <dennett@agate.net> (...) yet, no number (...) the part), and (...) the part, what (...) You are asking about unofficial mock-ups? They are not to be included. Only official parts count. Does this answer the question? Ryan (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I'm saying if a model requires a part which hasn't been made yet, no number is known for that part ('cause the number isn't imprinted on the part), and an unofficial (or mock-up) file is used as a placeholder for the part, what name should be (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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After discussing the ldraw.org Official Model Repository header and file naming system, I feel that we can come to a final resolution. A lot has been discussed on the topic, including various file naming systems and also locations within the models (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes, but that could cause problems down the road. We do try to find numbers for as many parts as possible, but sometimes the TLG part number is not available. We will have to have a system of updating the models once official numbers become (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) number? How (...) What do you mean? If a piece gots voted in then it's official even if we don't know a number for it, correct? Ryan (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) In this context, A/R just means picky about details in a Good Way. --Todd (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Is there a reason to put all the errors in one place, instead of putting a comment (or a 0 WRITE) before the plain-in-place-of-patterned line? But extras.dat is still needed. And what about part mock-ups for which there is no known part (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Ah. And I have now wiped GNAT off my system, so I couldn't tell which one it was. Windows Explorer thinks the compiled file (buildmpd.exe) is a DOS executable. But long file names are handled correctly, I checked both buildmpd.exe and (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Jeff Stembel <Dragonelf1@aol.com> wrote in message news:FDDp6J.IHz@lugnet.com... (...) Just wanted to be on the safe side :) -John Van (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Anal Retentive. I don't know why John said A***, in this context (and most others IMO) Anal isn't really a bad word. Jeff (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Wouldn't it be A** retentive? I can't think of a four-letter A-word. :) -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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