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  Re: Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?
 
(...) That's right, Don. Please see (URL) continued: (...) Yes, it will. Tony said: (...) Good initiative! If the file gets too big or unhandy for POV, I will reconsider the L3PARTS mentioned in (URL) (21 years ago, 3-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: * LDrawDesignPad LDDP 1.5 Beta released *
 
(...) I'm not sure what you mean by Drag 'N Drop. Could you elaborate more? (...) Again, I not sure what you mean. (...) Hmm... I have a look at it. I pretty much just ported the code from L3Check to Delphi. (...) I'll put this on the todo list. (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: * LDrawDesignPad LDDP 1.5 Beta released *
 
(...) hi, thx for making a great tool even better. I really like the winding button and the fakt that now you can select multiple lines and rewind them in one go! working with the old plug-in was a lot of clicking and mouse-hoovering (nontheless thx (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: * LDrawDesignPad LDDP 1.5 Beta released *
 
To all those who downloaded and got an '.dll not found' error after install, I've uploaded the fix to this problem. -Orion (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV code in official parts?
 
This is just my opinion since I started all this by suggesting to Lars to add POV support into L3P in the first place. By adding a few .dat primitives (not POV primitives) to the .dat definition, then you don't have to tie yourself to any renderer. (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?
 
(...) Now that would rock. For my personal use, this would almost entirely solve the problem. I could whip up a single file that contains all the parts I want to fix, run it through L3P, manually fix the parts in the resulting file, and then include (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?
 
(...) I asked Lars a while back if he could wrap all the part definitions with IF NDEF statements so that someone could define the parts they wanted in an external include file and the rest would use the standard L3P code. Hopefully when a new (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?
 
(...) Because parts with inline POV code work with the version of L3P that we have now. Why not start by building a library of modified official parts, but with the explicit goal of eventually converting them into POV only parts when L3P or some (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?  [DAT]
 
(...) Here is my $0.01.... This is how I have started handling Ldraw/PoV parts: The 3626bp6f.dat is availabe on the parts tracker here: (URL) is some line wrapping happening here, I will need to fix it later) 0 Minifig Head with Female Eyes with Red (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV code in official parts?
 
(...) I agree with Steve on this issue: no POV code in offical parts with the possible exception of primitves. I feel this way for a few reasons: - It could be construed the POV is the Official rendering program of the LDraw.org library. This can (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?
 
(...) Why not just a library of POV code only parts, ala LGEO/Raves, only compatible with the LDraw.org library? We could host this project on Sourceforge so anyone who was interested could develop. I think if we do it Pov only, LDraw.org is more (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Repository of .dat files with inline POV-Ray code... any interest?
 
(...) Okay... then I'd like to open this up to a question for the community: Is anyone interested in working on a single shared repository of ldraw-compatible parts with inlined POV-Ray code? How many authors out there are comfortable with both (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Inline POV code in official parts?
 
(...) Yes, it's pretty much still the case. I would really prefer to not have any POV code in the parts library at all. But if there must be some, I think it should stay in the primitive files. (...) I think a better solution is to work on POV (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Inline POV code in official parts?
 
What's the current plan for POV-Ray code in official parts? I have been out of the loop for a while, but my last understanding was that parts with inline POV-Ray code don't have any chance of getting certified on the parts tracker. Is this still the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Primitive substituion and part reviews
 
(...) They should not warrant a Hold review. Put comments in the review, and if you think the issue is serious enough, go for a NoVote review. (...) If the pattern allows, it would be good to add a color-matched ring primitive around the outside of (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Primitive substituion and part reviews
 
To what extent, if any, should rendering errors caused by primitive substitution warrent a Hold vote on the PT? An example of this would be a disc shaped pattern surrounded by a ndis. Would it be appropritate to add a small, color matching ring (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite outputting gobble-dee-goo to terminal window
 
(...) So you're saying that if I ask for the GL_RENDERER etc strings after a window resize I'll get the same ones I started with no matter what? (I added some code to check it anyway just in case) That really sux. Who designed that feature, (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite outputting gobble-dee-goo to terminal window
 
(...) OK, I looked at the code above, and all it seems to do is tell its OpenGL context to update every time the window is resized. If their glut doesn't do this, then it is broken. As far as I know, there isn't any equivalent to this in Windows. (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite outputting gobble-dee-goo to terminal window
 
(...) Found some more info. This makes it even more clear. (URL) it only shows icky Cocoa code. I may have to examine the apple glut sources to see how much of this is actually handled in glut. I wouldn't be suprised to find some bugs there. And I (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite outputting gobble-dee-goo to terminal window
 
(...) The OS is selecting the drivers. If I want to select them myself I have to write all sorts of icky OS specific code. (...) It gets worse. I did some searching on this. Apparently, according to the source on this page, I may need to check if my (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposed solution *Test Here*  [DAT]
 
(...) Yes. No. ;-) There's still a problem with mirrored sub-assemblies. Suppose you have an aeroplane, Plane.ldr: 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 2445.DAT 1 16 0 -8 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 Wing.ldr 1 16 0 -8 0 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 Wing.ldr Wing.ldr: 1 4 -80 (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Vertices not coplanar?
 
(...) Right, it is typically an error if the four points of a quad do not lie in a plane. Too bad that the LDraw format has a built-in possiblity of creating degenerate quads. POV e.g. uses 2D points to describe a polygon. See also "Method for (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Vertices not coplanar?
 
(...) What Orion said. (...) Sometimes, it just means the vertices are incorrect. If the vertices are correct, then you should break the quads into two triangles, and put a soft edge (linetype 5) along the common edge. But often, it's worth looking (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Vertices not coplanar?
 
(...) When a renderer goes to render a quad in 3D, it will almost always (perhaps always) first split the quad into two triangles. As long as the quad forms a planar surface, this will result in fairly equivalent results no matter which of the two (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Vertices not coplanar?
 
(...) If I remember my 3D theory correctly, these quads can mess up the normals associated with them. Also, noncoplaner quads cause small gaps in the part since they are, in essence, bent rectangles. Usually these gaps are too small to see, even (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Vertices not coplanar?
 
What troubles do these warnings cause? I see no problems with the renderings, no matter what renderer I use. How do I correct them? By splitting all the quads into two triangles each I guess? If so, why not make a tool that splits them up? /Tore (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposed solution *Test Here*
 
(...) Thanks for the info. After further consideration, I realized that there is one other thing that will prevent the -lgeo option from working properly, even for models that don't have mirrored sub-assemblies. Any parts in the part library that (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: List of part numbers with descriptions???
 
(...) Ow!!! (just smacked self in head) Thanks! James (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: List of part numbers with descriptions???
 
(...) How about using the peeron master list? (URL) VW (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: List of part numbers with descriptions???
 
(...) You can use the parts.lst file in your LDRAW directory. All it is is a master list of all the part numbers/names in the PARTS folder sorted by number or description depending on how you ran MKLIST. --Orion (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  List of part numbers with descriptions???
 
I'm still working on my back-burner program to make labels for storage drawers. Does anyone know of a (simple, Windows-based) way to get a list of the parts descriptions? Getting a list of all LDRAW part numbers is no sweat (dir *.dat /b ><filename> (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposed solution *Test Here*
 
(...) Two reasons I can think of: 1) Inventories: If you build a submodel using a Left Wing, and then mirror it, the inventory is going to show 2 left wings, when in reality there is 1 left wing and 1 right wing. 2) Instructions: Official LEGO (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposed solution *Test Here*
 
(...) That's good to hear. (...) Yeah. I was aware of that. The good news is that it should only be a problem in LGEO if you have mirrored sub-assemblies. Looking at the models I have downloaded over time, I discovered that most people don't do this (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposed solution *Test Here*
 
(...) I have tested your program against half a dozen files (including files with large mirrored sub-assemblies for wings and such) and the L3P generated renderings all showed the studs correctly. Well done. However, it doesn't work with -lgeo... (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Some secrets of MLCad revealed ...
 
(...) Yes, that makes sense. Hey, I did a little searching and found some references to "depth sprites" which seem to be supported in some of the latest graphics hardware. I haven't read it yet, but the pictures in this article seem to indicate that (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Proposed solution *Test Here*
 
OK, I have created a command line program to un-mirror studs. It is called UnMirrorStuds, and version 0.1 is available from the following location: (URL) download it and give it a try, and let me know what you think. I'd like to have people process (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another LDDP plugin question.
 
(...) After bit of searching during lunch hour for Delphi DLL memory corruption problems, I think I may have found it. This page: (URL) using _fpreset() to fixup the floating point state on return from Delphi DLLs and it seems to work. Must've been (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: A Plea from a greenhorn (Re: WOULD YOU PLEASE...)
 
(...) I'm willing to accept this. I also like a reviewer technique (BrickCaster) of taking screen captures of the errors and posting them to the web. The pictures are actually more beneficial than dat code in learning how to screen for errors. I'd (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Another LDDP plugin question.
 
(...) Feel free to Email anything to me. I'm a LDDP developer and I just recently got Delphi 7 -Orion (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another LDDP plugin question.
 
(...) I'm not into sourceforge and I have no time to dig myself into it, but I can send my source to someone who is willing to try it in delphi 6. Niels (21 years ago, 8-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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