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As I promised Friday: ldraw.org is up and running again thanks to a friend of mine who installed a new kernel on hugin. Play well, Jacob PS: I have recieved a message from the Danish backbone operator, warning me that the connection to Risø will be (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
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| | Re: Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
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(...) If you run a LUGNET search on backface culling, you'll find extensive discussion of this. Some parts (mostly done by Steve Bliss) have a "0 CW- Compliant" tag, which means you can use backface culling on them. It would be pretty amazing if you (...) (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Part 2409
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Heya all ! Where can I download part number 2409 and all other parts ? I need this part for my PD model for Datsville. Where can I get all LDraw parts ? (It was on geocities but now I can't find it.) Thanx. Rene e-mail: virsik@sco.svf.stuba.sk (25 years ago, 27-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Hidden surface removal, and vertex order in part/primitive DAT files
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I performed some hidden surface removal tests today (I should have been working on other things, like the inventory file cleanup utility...) and it appears that there isn't a standard order for listing vertices in DAT files (I only tested a few (...) (25 years ago, 26-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | ldraw.org down until Monday (was: ldraw.org failing DNS lookup?)
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(...) Jacob asked me to post the following message... --Todd ___...___ From: Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@cats.nbi.dk> Message-Id: <199909241830.UAA100...ts.nbi.dk> Subject: ldraw.org down until monday To: lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) Date: (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
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| | Re: Question on Colors for MLCad!
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Ok, MLCad already supports color meta commands of LDLite except the naming feature, I'll try to implement this into the next version, along with some suggestions from the articles arround "Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs. But one (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: anyone else notice this?
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(...) Are you doing the inside curve as well? What about the points? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: anyone else notice this?
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(...) Hello Jonathan, After a bitter conflict I've been able to wriggle my way back again to my former workplace. I had almost no access to internet during that time, so I used it very wisely. As you may have noticed on the parts tracker by now, (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Question on Colors for MLCad!
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(...) colors go (...) 0-15, 32-47, and 255-511 are LDraw-supported colors. There are a number of other colors < 100 supported by LDLite (check the documentation). LDLite also supports the COLOR meta command by which the user can custom define any (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Chrome in new LCAD programs
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(...) You beat me too it, Steve :) I was also going to recommend supporting the COLOR meta command. I also suggest you support all the other LDLite colors. (I think most of them are between 17 and 31) --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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(...) code. Thanks for the info. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Chrome in new LCAD programs
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(...) Have you looked at the LDLite extended meta-statements? Among other things, they allow colors to be defined and redefined in models. I'd recommend supporting these commands -- for some of them (probably the rotate, translate, and transform (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: gone fishin
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(...) All the standard colors are in the LDraw FAQ. Now, if someone wants to research RGB values for some of the newer colors, that'd be very cool. STeve (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dat.models, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Question on Colors for MLCad!
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Since many people are asking for the enhanced color dialog in MLCad I'm planning to introduce it now. But before that I have some questions where I hope you can answere them, and help me out: 1) In general there exist some predefined colors, in the (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Chrome in new LCAD programs
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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message ... (...) official (...) difficult (...) the (...) :) I don't think I personally have any sets with chrome parts, so I'm not sure how they appear in LEGO instructions. Anyone have a URL to a scanned instruction page? (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Chrome in new LCAD programs
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Gary: It'd be great if your program rendered color 383 (and 503) more like official LEGO instructions rather than like LDraw/LDlite. I don't know how difficult that would be too implement, though. --Bram PS: try not to be overwhelmed by all these (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:37e905c6.145432...net.com... (...) Have you even opened output from the MFE into LEdit? The result reminds me of the movie Total Recall. -John Van (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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Steve Bliss wrote in message <37e9033a.13891366@l...et.com>... (...) Yup. The simplified one I made last night is here: (URL) over-complicated one isn't on the server anymore. -Gary (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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(...) And use the shifted versions to go CCW would be great--shift-A goes -90 around Y, shift-S goes -90 around X, shift-D goes -90 around Z. LDAO's Modeler allows A/shift-A, but not the others. (...) The color-list is loaded from ldraw.ini. Open (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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(...) Complexity also increases as over-specification increases. (...) Yes, polygons and lines should be allowed. Maybe that should be on the advanced interface, but it should be allowed. (...) Yes. (...) Exactly. And if you right-click an object, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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(...) For new files, LDAO allows the user to specify the type of the file, separate from its location. The type information is written to the file as part of the header lines. When a file is loaded, LDAO looks for the typing information. If the file (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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Gary Williams: (...) [...] (...) Then give the user a _choice_ of interface. (...) I would limit command types 2-5 to the "extended interface". (...) The selected object would of cause (imo) always be the level referred directly to by the root level (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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Gary Williams: (...) This makes sense for the editor, but the renderer should consider any LDraw file equal wherever it resides. It it also worth remembering that some parts files actually uses specific colours (not only 16 and 24). Play well, Jacob (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message <19990921.200045.509...no.com>... (...) My experience has been that as flexibility increases, complexity increases. I'm usually quite anal about coding objects to always behave in a very structured, predictable (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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(...) Why not? I've done this when a part didn't exist (I used a box.dat for the center of the 1x2x2 shock absorber) (...) Part developers often use different colors to make sure shapes are matching up correctly. Also, atterned parts and some other (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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(...) Probably too restrictive. Most (I think) part developers design their parts in the models directory to keep them separate from the official parts. Mock-ups and crude outlines of parts should also be kept out of the parts directory. I like the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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Would it be too restrictive of my CAD program to require that all parts (and nothing but parts) are stored in the parts and parts/s directories, and all primitives (and nothing but primitives) are stored in the p directory? Models could exist (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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Gary Williams wrote in message ... (...) with. Doh', this wouldn't be a complete solution, either. If the user opens a model, I'd still have to determine which external references in it are parts and which are embedded models/subassemblies. And if (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I don't see that as being that big a deal, really. And if you could have some kind of button on a toolbar for each of them, all the better. (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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My original plans called for my CAD package to distinguish among the various kinds of DAT file. This would allow the program to know when it was appropriate to enable certain editing features. For example, it shouldn't allow the user to add (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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(...) Short cuts for turning 90 degrees around x or z would be great too. (A for 90 degree turn around y axis, S around x, D around z maybe?) (...) alternatives (...) That reminds me, another good feature is the Start-at-Line option. (...) So do I, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Unsubscribing
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(...) If you signed up manually, go here: (URL) simply reverse what you did earlier. But if you transferred over by default from the former L-CAD mailing list, which it looks like you did, then drop me a note (just reply to this message) and I'll (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Limiting pieces (was: Re: File format for set inventories?)
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(...) Wow, that would be neat-o. I could really use something like that when planning monorail layouts. I know exactly how many of each piece I have, and, unlike, say, red 2x4 bricks, I can't just go out and get more without extreme difficulty. So, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Fwd: The older version of the 4x10x(2/3) car base, #4212.
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This is an argument to which I've received no resolution. Please view this post and answer my questions to the best of your ability. I wrote earlier on lugnet.cad.dat.parts: (...) P.S.: My completed version (thus far) has a problem involving the (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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(...) Wow, those are some good skills. Let's see... I can annoy 450 people with one post. I can make steak so tough it will dull your knife. I can turn a swan into a block of ice(1). And I know enough about computers to be really really dangerous. (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | Unsubscribing
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How do I unsubscribe? Richard Laing Vancouver, CANADA rlaing@axionet.com rlaing@bigfoot.com (URL) may be made of a Scotchman if he be caught young." Samuel Johnson (1709-1784) ***...*** (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message <19990920.131952.509...no.com>... (...) Don't have too much to say about this one, but having to center a part in Ledit before turning is annoying. I like the "a" key function in Ledit--I haven't used any other (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: new Windows-based Lego CAD program
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If anyone out there is interested, I've uploaded a digram of the object class hierarchy I intend to use for my CAD program to this url: (URL) make me draw diagrams like this at work, so I figured I'd give it a shot for a personal project. (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: File format for set inventories?
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Gary Williams skrev i meddelandet ... (...) As soon as more than one program accepts it, it's a standard :-) (But not before) Feel free to mail me for the details in the LDList end - ask Steve about the receiving end. In principle I am just sending (...) (25 years ago, 20-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: DAT format question
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(...) I think those account for about a half-dozen of the files. Since they aren't inlined & cleaned up yet. And they're currently multi-colortural. :) Steve (25 years ago, 20-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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