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Re: Suggestions for developers of LCAD programs
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Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:48:24 GMT
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"Brian Sauls" <barbcue@nospam.home.com> writes:
> Bram Lambrecht wrote in message
> > 1) Highlight the current part in some way (preferably wireframe) and
> > center a cursor on the part so that I can see where its center of
> > rotation is.
> 
> Don't have too much to say about this one, but having to center a part
> in Ledit before turning is annoying.   I like the "a" key function in
> Ledit--I haven't used any other program long enough to figure out if
> such a key exists.(1)

Short cuts for turning 90 degrees around x or z would be great too.  (A
for 90 degree turn around y axis, S around x, D around z maybe?)

> > 2) Allow the current part to be moved without redrawing the entire
> > model. The redraws are the most annoying problem in current • alternatives
> > to LEdit.
> 
> Especially for me--my building roofs are usually subfiles, and I
> always add them last.  If I misplace it, I've gotta' wait for the
> entire model, and I can't just guess where it goes because the bricks
> beneath are waiting to be redrawn.

That reminds me, another good feature is the Start-at-Line option.

> > 3) Allow part selection with the same number of key strokes (or
> > fewer) than LEdit. (ie, P, nnnn, ENTER where nnnn is the part number)
> 
> I *like* being able to see the parts.

So do I, but only some times.  After using LEdit for 4 years, I've
memorized some part numbers and I want to be able to enter them quickly
without touching the mouse.

> > Here are some suggestions for improvement on LEdit (some have already
> > been implemented in the current alternatives:
> > 
> > 1) Allow user defined views (or at least multiple 3D views)
> 
> Esc-file-save, modelname.dat enter alt-enter Ldao, modelname.dat,
> modeler, first-line click, last line click,  rotate, ?-axis, n degrees,
> file save ledit, alt-enter, esc-file-load modelname.dat.

That's not as fast as choosing view, right-rear, and it changes the file,
unlike changing the viewpoint does.

> > 2) Improve searching for parts (MLCAD is pretty good for this,
> > integrating LDList would be even better)
> 
> alt-enter, start menu--oh, nevermind.  Please?

Right now, I Alt-Tab between LDlist and LEdit.  But my screen clicks
every time it changes resolution (annoying) and sometimes (especially
when quiting LEdit) freezes.

> The remainder I can't really comment upon since I've yet (yet) to
> encounter problems here.

I hadn't necessarily encountered these problems, they are just
suggestions for anyone getting started on an LCAD program.

> Please don't get me wrong--I *have* tried all the Lego CAD programs
> that I can find so I can make an honest comparison (although, for some
> reason, tonite I cannot type--I hope I catch all my arrows--er, errors). •  I
> feel guilty about offering even constructive criticism becuase coding • such
> programs is beyond my current range of abilities.  I can write a batch
> file that'll clear the screen, change directories, then ask if you • really
> want to format c:\., but other than that...(2)

I'm not in a position to criticize either, its just that I want these new
programs to go to good use.  As long as they don't include or improve on
my favorite features of LEdit, I'm not going to switch.  I _have_ used
features/programs I like (LDList for example-I never use my print-out of
part numbers any more.  LDAO's minifig modeler[1] and LDLite's ROTATE,
etc.), so it is possible to make me switch out of DOS. :)
--Bram

1) Steve: a few suggestions for the minifig modeler:
- allow colors other than 0-15.
- update 9326*.dat to 973*.dat
- if possible, let me add headgear (usually in the same
position/orientation as the head, so it shouldn't be too hard to
implement[2]), most often parts 2446 and 2447

2) right now, I need to open the file in LDAO editor and add the lines
myself



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(...) And use the shifted versions to go CCW would be great--shift-A goes -90 around Y, shift-S goes -90 around X, shift-D goes -90 around Z. LDAO's Modeler allows A/shift-A, but not the others. (...) The color-list is loaded from ldraw.ini. Open (...) (27 years ago, 22-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message <19990920.131952.509...no.com>... (...) Don't have too much to say about this one, but having to center a part in Ledit before turning is annoying. I like the "a" key function in Ledit--I haven't used any other (...) (27 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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