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  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) Doh! Yep, I did :) (...) The fopaw (sp?) of registering for posting hit me about 5 minutes later when I re-read my post. You propose a good solution. (...) That *could* be described in the Creation/Submission Rules pages. (...) We could make (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) I think that your list just about what I can think of as necessary plus this - If the piece is not available(for patterned parts see #4) a comment must be added in its place stating what piece should go there(piece number preferred if it is (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) I believe you mean lugnet.cad.models.sets (...) One problem I foresee is that you are required to register in order to post. One way this could be solved would be to register ldraw.org as a valid poster, and then post the messages from an (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  OMR Planning - Almost There
 
Ryan, Jeff, Todd, etc. I just unearthed an old unfinished project of mine - the OMR Model Creation/Submission guide for ldraw.org. Now I see that we were much further along than I thought we were. Some things that need to be finalized are: Model (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Another part variation
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes: [snip] (...) Yeah, it's kinda wild. Do you think TLC have a list with individual names and numbers for these 3 different parts? They must. How else could they get the right thing in the little baggies. It sure (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another part variation
 
(...) Given that the 2 parts are different mabie we need a technic horn in the ldraw library??? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Old Parts replaced by Newer Versions?
 
(...) I (...) has (...) Actually Chris, I think I have either all three versions or at least the last two in gray. The delicate ones came with 2 Space Dart-Is I bought over a 15-year span. Ironically, it was a thicker, more durable clip that I had (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another part variation
 
(...) Augh! You're right! I've got three different versions, right here on my desk. Specifically, I've got: Brown tree trunks, height = 44LDU, no internal teeth/tabs Brown tree trunks, height = 40LDU, no internal teeth/tabs Black tree trunks, height (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: LGEO homepage ?
 
(...) If for some reason he has gone offline, it would be nice to be able to keep distributing the LGEO library. We could do it from ldraw.org, but 1) anyone have suggestions on getting permission and 2) anyone have the LGEO zip file? -Tim (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LGEO homepage ?
 
(...) Hmm, that's interesting...I just noticed yesterday that I got a bounced mail that was addressed to Lutz's address at that server... --Todd (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Another part variation
 
(...) Many moons ago on RTL, someone from Europe (I can't remember who it was.) pointed out that the "horn" piece in Technic models is NOT the same as the palm-tree segment, the difference being the Technic version had inner tabs that would lock a (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Another part variation
 
(...) In something like this, it is possible (almost certain) that TLC has several molds, one or two could easily be the older variation. One interesting thing to do would be to compare the parts from 5988 against an older set, and see if there is (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Another part variation
 
(...) Hmm. I just realized that the palm tree trunk pieces in my copy of #5988, Pharaoh's Forbidden Ruins, are the longer version. That's the version I thought was older. Weird *and* trivial. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.general)
 
  LGEO homepage ?
 
I saw that the LGEO pages are down, I'm trying to use this link: (URL) Does anyone know if they were moved ? Leonardo (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) In lugnet.cad.dev, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: [about INVERTNEXT] (...) OK. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Piece authoring question...
 
Dave Schuler wrote in message ... (...) There should never be coincident faces in a part. It will confuse all rendering programs including PovRay. The color of the overlapping area will fluctuate (according to rounding errors) between the two (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: legality of entering LDraw files into POVray contest
 
(...) I don't believe there are (or could be any) legal ramifications from you entering a Lego model in a POV contest. Just don't render 'Lego' on the studs is what I'd say, or make it too small so its unreadable. But TLG doesn't get upset at us for (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  legality of entering LDraw files into POVray contest
 
I was wondering, if I enter one of the models I've made into a POVray contes, will I get into trouble with LEGO because not everyone will automatically know it's not an actual LEGO sanctioned project, or must I only include information about LDRaw (...) (25 years ago, 17-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
[ Still discussing (URL) ] Steve: [...] (...) Correct. (...) J subfile command line, and it only influences the immediately J following subfile command. I don't think the "and nowhere else" is that important. You already have written "only". (...) (...) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Piece authoring question...
 
(...) would >LDraw represent a DAT which had layered images? For that matter, (...) If you layer the levels by a very small amount (.00001 or something), it'll render nicely in POV-Ray after being converted with L3P. However, it'll look awful in (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part request or info
 
[Replying in .cad & .cad.dev to a message posted in .cad.dat.parts; Followups to .cad.dev] (...) Just a reminder -- (not to pick on Michael or anyone in particular): The .cat.dat.parts group is for posting parts in LDraw DAT format, plus any (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Piece authoring question...
 
When designing a part with a graphic on it, like a minifig torso, for instance, is it possible to "overlap" image shapes of different colors, or must there only be one "level" of image on a surface? How would LDraw represent a DAT which had layered (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Should it stay this way, or should we move towards a more structured organization? If so, what are the criteria for membership? Does the group need a leader(s), and if yes, what is the role(s) of the leader(s)? (...) But it (or the JJ (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
(...) ?? (...) I agree. It looks to me that the article could be edited for clarity and layout. Someone with better knowledge of the DAT file than me want to do that? Either I or someone else can put it in the ldraw.org page format, the template is (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Right now, the website pretty much *is* the organization. We don't have a membership list, or a secret handshake, or even a definition of who's in the group. I'm alright with this loose organization, but I feel that there isn't a big point of (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
(...) ...Cool! :-, I've needed this functionality on my NT box for a *long* time, and it never occurred to me that MS could've gotten this one right. ;-) Thanks! Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
(...) In Windows, looks for the hosts file in the main Windows directory. If it isn't there, create one. If you use Notepad, be sure it doesn't change the filename to hosts.txt when you save it. Steve (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
(...) Question #20. I don't about "official", but I have some other words to describe it... That article (question 20) is too large for the FAQ, and should be broken out as a separate item/page on the website. (...) Seems like the best way to go (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) I like your explanation better, but I think we're both missing the point: this paragraph is supposed to be about INVERTNEXT, not inversion. Fewer details are appropriate at this point. More details should go in (1) the explanation of inversion (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
(...) Thanks for the fix but I am on a windows box which does not have an etc folder. I have e-mailed tech support and will see what happens. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
Jonathan: (...) For a temporary fix, append the following line to "/etc/hosts" (that's the name of the file in Unix): 130.226.51.217 hugin.risoe.dk www.ldraw.org That way your machine will skip looking www.ldraw.org up through DNS. Play well, Jacob (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
(...) And then my dns says cant find hugin.ldraw.org. I will mail the tech support people and tell them of the problem. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
(...) % host www.ldraw.org www.ldraw.org has address 130.226.51.217 However, (URL) seems to send out an HTTP "Location:" header which redirects to (URL). --Todd (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
Jonathan: (...) You don't need "the IP", you need the machines IP _number_. It's 130.226.51.217. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  What is the IP for ldraw.org?
 
I need to know the IP for ldraw.org. I cant get through to it because my ISP's dns server cant find it. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 16-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
Tim: (...) Yes. The FAQ contains something that is supposed to be a description of the LDraw language. I don't know if people consider it "official". (...) Yes. Some formal specifications, some example files, and maybe even some programs for testing (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: WTB: Some Of These Struts!
 
I was able to get the links to work if I added "/images" before the part number and changed the "jpg" to "gif" -Phil (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: WTB: Some Of These Struts!
 
I think you got caught by the move. No doubt the old URLs were good when you composed your note but they are not any more. They all have moved to Lugnet. Specifically, to here: (URL) the start of the discussion: (URL) post: (URL) that links of the (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) It's (...) darn (...) Could you tell me the address of that site? I can't find it. Mike (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I'd like to see that happen too. But AFAIK I don't know of any reply from Zach Benz on the question. If he gives the OK, I'm all for it. Jacob would have to write something to make it run, I'm a dud when it comes to programming. -Tim (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
It would be great if the parts request list could be moved to LDraw.org. It's kind of hard to find. I'm having trouble trying to locate it now. Those darn *.shtml files... (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I would have to disagree here. I clearly see 'ldraw.org' as a website, since that's the name the website has been given. But the group of people is an organization, who uses the site as its central resource for LDraw materials. The (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
(...) I think its a good idea. (...) In what way? Is it on the FAQ? Perhaps we could include some definitions on some other part of the site. (...) The only thing that's floating here is my brain. ;) (...) Since I haven't been following that thread (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
[ Still discussing (URL) ] Steve: (...) That makes sense. (...) I'll reuse the notation. ---...--- (...) # Fine. (...) # I'll try a complete reformulation: 4 INVERTNEXT J This option is used to swap the definitions of "inside" and "outside" (i.e. J (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDraw and spatial awareness
 
I've noticed something peculiar, though it may just be a factor of my own stunted 3D visualization skills. I seem to have become noticeably better at planning Lego projects in my head. I don't mean simple buildings like basic Freestyle houses, but (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I'd prefer that the group and website both go by ldraw.org. When refering specifically to the people, it would be 'ldraw.org group'. For the webpages, it would be 'ldraw.org site'. (...) Which updates? The new mklist.exe? Fixed versions of (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) Yes, it would render correctly, but it would also disable clipping more often than is required, in the case of mixed solid and transparent sections. Think of a submodel where the author used color 16, and the person using the submodel renders (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) It's an admin role vs. personal role thing. I took it upon myself to write up a spec, I didn't want to imply that it was endorsed by the group at large. (...) Hmmm. You're right. Inversion is no more global than accumulated clipping. They are (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
(...) Considered, yes. Done something, no. (...) We try to do that already. (...) How do we do that? (...) I am not sure that the BP7 floating-point format exactly matches the IEEE format, but I will look it up. (...) Yes. Also for easy testing of (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
Can we pick one newsgroup for this discussion? Please? (...) I don't see much of a need for this, other than saying programs can claim they are "LDraw Compatible". (...) Nah. Steve (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
Say, has anyone considered LDraw DAT file certification for clones? (I don't mean clone brands of LEGO bricks, I mean clone software of LDraw/LEdit/etc.) Some random thoughts... ldraw.org could maintain the official definition of the LDraw DAT file (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve Bliss wrote... (...) If IsTransparent(Color) Then AccumClip = FALSE takes care of solid non-16 colors (decorations) in parts used transparently. And a similar check added to BFC() can take care of transparent non-16 colors in parts used as (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts Guide
 
(...) *Groan* don't remind me... That would probably make #1 if I had a list of top 10 Lugnet headaches. At least that one is long over... (...) I've spoken with a couple people on parts tutorials, and it appears some might be in the works, but they (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Parts Guide
 
I was reading a while ago and ran across a thread about Jonahthan Wilson and his posting stuff. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone would write a tutor on how to design a part. I would like to learn, but don't know how. I guess you could call me a (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Is anyone using my ldraw circle creator?
 
Is anyone using my ldraw circle creator? It is great for making high resolution circular primatives for such things as patterned baseplates etc I am considering improvements to it but if no one is using it then there is no point. -- Jonathan Wilson (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: stud.dat
 
[ XFUT lugnet.cad where this question belongs ] Quozl: (...) We all started there at some point. (...) There should be a "stud.dat" in "complete.exe". Try to run "complete.exe -y" again. If this doesn't fix the problem you should download (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  stud.dat
 
First of all: I'm a complete newbie to LDraw. The situation: I've downloaded complete.exe and run it, saved the parts list from ldraw.org in C:\LDRAW\, and when I open up a LDRAW model in LDlite, none of the bricks have studs. When I open up MLCAD, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
[ Still discussing (URL) ] Steve: You can also put them on ldraw.org now that you have an account here. Here comes a commented/edited version. Lines starting with "#" are my comments and lines starting with "J" are my changes/additions. ---...--- (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
At 12:18 AM 12/12/1999 , Larry Pieniazek wrote: [...] Snippety-poo (...) Ok... I'd take a shot that there are maybe 1000-1500 LDraw users. There are a lot of hits to ldraw.org, average of about 70 pages/hr from a couple weeks ago. I don't have up to (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) It's a SWAG. Probably exaggerated by one order of magnitude, on reflection... Fairly educated, though. Let's work the LDraw side... how many LDrawers do you think we have? I'll let you make that guess, you'd know better than I, but I'd be (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Is that an educated guess of a figure? ;) (...) Yeah... .mpl (Multi-Part LDraw) ? (...) Agreed. (...) That would be a good thing. The only argument I see against changing them is tradition, to which I say, 'poo.' -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I think he was being sarcastic. Project is probably installed on 4000 times as many PCs as all the LDraw compatible tools put together. If you do anything that has to be planned, you can't live without Project and there really isn't a good (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  MLCad Plugin Capability?
 
It would be really cool if programs like MLCad allowed plugins to be installed. This way, utility authors could write their utility as a plugin and have it installed so a user could work with his model from one program. Just an idea to throw out, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) LDraw Group? LDraw Organization? LDraw Foundation? (...) Hmmm, original software only, or original software including our updates? LDraw? LDraw Suite? LDraw Package? (...) Official ldraw.org Parts Updates. (...) LDraw Compatible (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) Hmm. that makes me wonder if the logic of turning of BFC clipping when a part's color is transparent will really work. Because a part may have the main color as 16, and some sections are hard-coded to a transparent color. In this case, the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Introducing LEGO Direct
 
I don't mold plastic for a living but I think when you design plastic parts you have to design what you want to actually get, to a very high tolerance, and then you have to design the mold, which will have DIFFERENT dimensions than the desired part, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
[snipped other ng's from reply, although it was a toss-up between lcd and lcdol] (...) There are at least three different concepts to be differentiated-- "The Organization Formerly Known as L-CAD" "the LDraw suite of tools that JJ developed (as (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
[restricted reply to lugnet.cad.dev] (...) It's because LEdit supplies the .DAT when you type in a new part number. Parts.lst is only used to display the parts list when you press P<enter>. Similarly, we're stuck with leaving the ldraw directory (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
[restricted reply to lugnet.cad.dev] (...) And if you type in a part number, LEdit adds the .DAT to make the file number. Steve (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve Bliss wrote in message ... (...) Remember BFC must be disabled for transparent parts. That's what If 32 <= Color And Color <= 47 Then AccumClip = FALSE takes care of. Frankly I can't think of any situations where double-sided sections are (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Creating Illustrator like files
 
Hi all, With MLCad you can print out the models, right? It seems like the output is some postscript or vector drawing. Would it be possible to (directly!) convert the LDraw-file format in an Illustrator-like vector format? Now we would, or could, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Correct. I like the phrase 'The LDraw System' identifying the original .dat format and the programs which use the 'System.' [1] (...) Obviously .dat files have become integrated with part files. I like .ldr or .ldm for 'LDraw Model.' .mpl for (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
Tim Courtney wrote: <Good questions. Which I snipped.> In my opinion: A name is needed to identify the concept of "formated to be compatible with LDraw and LEdit, as extended". This name needs to be separate from the concept of "the LDraw suite of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) That would be great! I'm not sure if Jacob would want someone else's CGI running on the server, why not ask him. Here's the correct link: (URL) you'd like, just work with the fields (I believe they're commented in the HTML source) and we'll (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I could do a form and/or a cgi to go with it. I am an expert with cgi and html etc. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Looking for part SWENGINE.DAT
 
James Wilson wrote in message ... (...) I believe it is in the current vote awaiting release. Its release wil be soon enough to patient people. (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Yes. (...) Personally, I think the term 'ldraw.org' refers to the actual website. The group of people could remain 'L-CAD' if desired, or 'The LDraw Organization,' or something completely different. On the site, I refer to ldraw.org as the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Does it really? I thought it all came from the parts.lst file and the program referenced that. Or...is it because that's what the program starts up with? -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I see what you mean. ledit has encoded references to parts (the 2 x 4 brick springs to mind) that cant be changed. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Yes. (...) Try using terms like: LDraw -- a (mostly historical) software package for creating LEGO-type models on your computer. ldraw.org -- the group formerly known as the L-CAD mailing list. A (very) loosely organized group of people, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Size limit?
 
Dave Schuler <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:FMHE1n.Dp@lugnet.com... (...) DAT (...) There's no limit. We asked Todd about this a while back and he said post away. (...) No, it would not. Per the charter of cad.dat.* groups, only .dat (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Size limit?
 
I'm working on a largish DAT file, and I'd like to post it when I get it completed. Is there a limit, etiquette-based or otherwise, on how large a DAT we can post here? Would it be okay instead to post a link to the DAT in cad.dat-files? Dave! (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Ninja Doors?
 
(...) All right then. Is there one in the works anywhere? Dave! (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Looking for part SWENGINE.DAT
 
Just in case someone else is looking for it, it's 30360.dat. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
LDraw is the original program that writes (one form of)* .dat files. All the other programs that write this type of .dat file are 'LDraw compatibles'. How's that? * i believe .dat is a fairly common extension used for lots of stuff. John Matthews (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Ninja Doors?
 
(...) no. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) I don't have contact with his family, but I believe James' old rivtron@... address still works. I would like to see a picture as well. If someone would like to give me his family's address, I will write. If someone else would like to write, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
I think that ldraw should refer to the ldraw program and the all the official parts then we refer to all the other tools as ldlite or mlcad or whatever I think we should keep the .dat extension for ldraw files -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
Hi Tim! One other thing... You mentioned in another group about James' background and history. One thing I would like to see is a picture of him. Can you contact his family or put feelers out. I think that would be an excellent item to add to his (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
(...) Hi Adam! (...) Right. (...) We could keep the parts .dat and make new models .ldr (or .ldm - LDraw Model), or we could also change parts to .ldp (LDraw Part), just to distinguish the difference. (...) Yeah, I'd really like to see LDraw II come (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Ninja Doors?
 
Is there currently an official or semi-official DAT file for the large brown doors found in, among other sets, the Samurai Stronghold? Thanks in advance, Dave! (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is 'LDraw?'
 
Hi Tim! Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199912...omm.com... (...) format. (...) include (...) their (...) LDraw is James' software package. It will always be that. It's like 3D Studio Max or Adobe Photoshop, they have (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  What is 'LDraw?'
 
Because of some of the more recent advancements in software which utilizes the .dat file, I have been thinking about what LDraw *is*. I think we should firmly establish what LDraw is if there are going to [and there will] be more advancements in (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) Sometimes, transparent parts have decorative printing. And the LDraw library should be written so that modelers can use any part in any color, even if LEGO hasn't released that part/color combination yet. Decorations on transparent parts shows (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Yah. Keeping my _sed & awk_ and _Programming Perl_ within reach isn't a matter of life and death -- it's much more important than that. But make is really a simple tool. I wonder just how useful an entire book for it would be. The last one I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Looking for part SWENGINE.DAT
 
I'm looking for part SWENGINE.DAT that shows up in several model DAT files posted on LUGNET (for example, Pat Justisson's Tantive IV -- that's the only one I can remember author and subject off-hand). Can someone point me to the correct web site or (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Is ldraw.org down?
 
Sjaacko: (...) ldraw.org is up and seems to be working just fine. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Is ldraw.org down?
 
Is it? I cannot seem to connect to it. -- Greetingz... Sjaacko (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  More info on James Jessiman
 
A while back I received an email asking for more information on James Jessiman. I thought about what this person wrote, and it would be nice to get some more info on James for the site, so people can have a better idea of who he was. Below is the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
 
(...) Oh, I dunno about O'Reilly... :-) Their stuff is spotty. It varies from good, up through Insanely Great, all the way to YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THIS BOOK. I wish they'd just pick a quality level and stick to it. :-) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)


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