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Re: Old Parts replaced by Newer Versions?
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lugnet.cad.dev
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Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:18:43 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Chris Dee writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, James Jackson writes:
> > Currently, my biggest pet peeve is 4212.dat, the 4 x 10 x 2/3 car base. The • new
> > version actually 4 x 10 x 18/24, the square section in the center has been • sunk
> > fruther in so that 2x2x2 town chairs in down to the first plate level. One • long
> > plate can no longer fit across the bottom, and the Technic peg hole is gone. • I
> > had to manually rebuild this piece into 4212A.dat, The 1980 version of the • same
> > part. I hope it's arrival is well received.
> > If you look hard enough, you will see small differences in the regular
> > bricks and plates. 4085.dat, the 1x1 horizontal clip is also structurally
> > different.
> > James J.
> >
> >
> > In lugnet.cad.dev, Chris Dee writes:
> > > In lugnet.cad.dev, Jamie Obrien writes:
> > > > Hi, I was just looking over some of my older space sets, and was
> > > > wondering whether the parts in LDraw should include the older versions
> > > > of parts that have been upgraded over the years?
> > > > For example
> > > >
> > > > my older versions of
> > > > 3475.DAT Plate 1 x 2 with Jet Engine
> > > >
> > > > are slightly smaller, and also don't have the recessed axle connector
> > > > inside of the side engine pod. There are a couple others like tool
> > > > clips and some I can't remeber, but should there be alternate pieces
> > > > for these, or just use the newer versions.
> > > >
> > > > But for a part like:
> > > >
> > > > 4081.DAT Plate 1 x 1 with Clip Light
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the older version used a narrower seperator on the circular clip
> > > > section that allowed a plate to connect to it and remain level at the
> > > > edge of the plate. So the piece is different, or mayb evolved, but
> > > > still different enough to be included.
> > > >
> > > > Any comments or pointers?
> > > >
> > > > Jamie Obrien
> > > > jamien@interworx.com.au
> > >
> > > In general, yes, we try to include variants where these are either visibly
> > > different (like solid-stud vs. hollow stud minifig heads), or functionally
> > > different.
> > >
> > > It's all a matter of priority (and access to the parts themseleves). What is
> > > most important - new parts or variants of already modelled parts?
> > >
> > > Chris
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> Yes there are actually (at least) three different versions of 4085 which
> increasingly strengthen the structure of the clip. The oldest (type I) version
> has the tips of the clip turned in and looks like a "C". The next (type II) • has
> the outer edges of the clip parallel but still looks delicate. By comparison
> the modern (type III), version has a thicker stem and thicker arms to the clip
> again with parallel outer edges. The current dat file is closest to type III.
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> I am not aware of any difference in building capability between these, but the
> older versions tend to break more easily.
>
> Chris
Actually Chris, I think I have either all three versions or at least the
last two in gray. The delicate ones came with 2 Space Dart-Is I bought over a
15-year span. Ironically, it was a thicker, more durable clip that I had out of
6 in my Surf Shack (from 1993) that was the first to fall. But I have since
replaced it with a SAHS spare parts package.
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