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Re: Containers
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.build
Date: 
Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:56:33 GMT
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Karim wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes:


Well, I just (well several hours ago) tried this out. The geometry doesn't
quite work out. To fill in those who haven't seen the picture, the key is
that staggered, opposing thin-walls make a channel for plates to sit in
vertically. Here's a very rough diagram of the thin wall arrangement:

Oooh, Drat! I forgot about the "lego" logos extruded on the tops of the
studs... Oh well, just goes to show the dangers of designing lego models in
your head... :)

BTW, I just tried it myself, and it does work... almost... the deflection of
the 1x2x2 "thin wall" panels is noticable, and causes a bit of stress to the
system, but it will hold together.  Amazing that those pesky little lovable
letters can cause such a large tolerance problem...

It's more than just the letters, the actual stud is ever so slightly
taller. When I gently slid a plate into a chanel made by reversing two
thin walls, the top of the stud caught the edge of the wall. The two
stud wide channel with 3 plates + tile did not exhibit this same
resistance.

One fix, is to use a 1x2/1x4 bracket (#2436) as you suggested in an earlier
post to shore up the *top* of the floating assembly.  Since the 1x4 sections of
the 2436 stands out further than the 1x2x1 "thin wall" panel.

The only problem with that is that the vertical section slants inward.

Of course we've been ignoring another 1 stud wide solution which
requires a double plate thickness ceiling. Put a 1x2/1x4 bracket into
the first layer of the ceiling, with the 1x4 section facing the outside
of the container. Hang a 4x2N plate from this.Cover this plate with
tiles and it is now a 1 stud thick wall. If this wall is run down below
the level of the floor of the container, the floor will act as a
backstop. Of course the wall section can be fairly easily removed since
it is only held by 4 studs. Depending on how thick the floor is made
though, one could work another 1x2/1x4 bracket into the floor (but then
the top of the floor has to be 5 plates above the bottom of the wall).
Of course this solution consumes a lot of tiles.

--
Frank Filz

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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com



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  Re: Containers
 
(...) Hmmm, we may be running into the limit of lego tolerances here. When I tried the assembly, it was clearly just the letters on top of the studs that kept it from working perfectly. In fact, it does actually hold together, and works just as I (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)

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  Re: Containers
 
(...) Oooh, Drat! I forgot about the "lego" logos extruded on the tops of the studs... Oh well, just goes to show the dangers of designing lego models in your head... :) BTW, I just tried it myself, and it does work... almost... the deflection of (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.build)

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