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  How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
There seems to be some confusion lately about how to post a message announcing a MOC. It was (URL) thought by many years ago> that we should have a separate newsgroup for announcing MOC's that is different from the regular lugnet.announce group. We (...) (16 years ago, 4-Jul-08, to lugnet.announce, FTX)  
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) David: I notice that when a person posts a MOC to lugnet.announce.moc that it also shows up in the standard "announce" category. Look at the past three MOC's I've posted and you'll see what I mean. I posted mine to lugnet.announce.moc and they (...) (16 years ago, 4-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I'm surprised anyone posts here anymore considering all the hassle involved and the inevitable scolding when you get something wrong. This site is about the furthest thing from "user friendly" I can imagine. I feel for newbies stumbling upon (...) (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Dave, All of your posts that I've seen are posted to the correct groups, so no worries there. Sometimes people post new MOC's to just lugnet.announce instead of lugnet.announce.moc. Lugnet.announce is a group for stuff like general-interest (...) (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) Maybe it's time to face the reality LUGNET is in its senior years and will go the way of RTL. I agree, LUGNET just isn't as user friendly as it was and these days people have more options than just LUGNET to talk LEGO. I suspect if there isn't (...) (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) Adrian, I sort of agree with you as the technology behind the current version of LUGNET was very sophisticated and advanced way back when... ...but there certainly are other ways to provide a lot of the functionality now. That is why of course (...) (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
There is a lot here I would be devastated to lose. Lugnet remains an excellent centre point for news, and one of the few places where different themes come out of their niches and mix. Sentimental value as well... All the best and God Bless, Nathan (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I like Lugnet. It fills a void in that the listings for the sets are easy to use and link to other sites. It is a straight forward site without a lot of the bells and whistles that make others rather difficult to use. The only complaint is the (...) (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) Thanks Nathan, that's what has been keeping us from any big changes so far - the risk of losing something that has peoples' appreciation cannot be taken lightly. Just keeping everything going the way it is has proven challenging at times. (...) (16 years ago, 5-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
-snip- (...) To say LUGNET isn't as user friendly. I would have to say this applies to every other LEGO fansites. Such as, FBTB.net, Classic-space, Classic-castle, Eurobricks, BrickLink, Brothers-brick, Brickflims.com, Brickshelf.com, Brickfilms, (...) (16 years ago, 6-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) Jerry, I am glad you have come out and posted this. Doing so tells all of us who have been here since this place started that you don't want LUGNET to die either. Adr. (16 years ago, 6-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) We certainly don't. That's why René and I joined forces to continue to run LUGNET in the first place. Speaking purely for myself, I have found LUGNET a highly valuable resource ever since my personal darkage ended in 1999. There are lots of (...) (16 years ago, 6-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) The web/email authentication system strikes me as an unnecessary obstacle to casual discussion. Before I obtained a Lugnet membership last year (inspired by the Great Brickshelf Crisis of '07), I often had difficulty posting messages. (...) (16 years ago, 6-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) Hi Jim, as a matter of fact, LUGNET members do not need to authenticate posts if they sign into the web interface and post from there (as I am doing right now). Only the news (NNTP) and mail interfaces require authentication even for (...) (16 years ago, 6-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) I know; I am a member. As I said, the difficulties I experienced occurred before I became a member. (...) I do not advocate posting privileges for anonymous visitors either. (...) Indeed. Elsewhere, this is done with a one-time email (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
In lugnet.general, Gereon Stein wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> This statement alone is a big part of the reason I like LUGNET over the alternative sites (that and the threaded format vice bulletin board flat posting format). I feel it adds an edge of (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: LUGNET in its Senior Years? (was Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's)
 
(...) I see your point here although I think that (continuing your example) I'm probably more broadly known as "gambort" now than I am as "Tim Gould" so the 'edge of responsibility' is attached to both names. Furthermore, a web search on my alias (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I have to 2nd what John just said. But there is one thing that really discourages me from posting here, say as opposed to on Bricklink. Often my posts are of such a detailed historic or obscure nature that I get no replies to them. That in and (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Hi Gary, I take that as a valuable suggestion for what might be changed in the near future, however it is somewhat difficult to tell how often a post has been read as we have more ways to access posts than just the web. Still even after all (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Gary, I am one of those silent people who has never shown appreciation for the wealth of information you share here. I look forward to seeing posts from you because your posts usually contain interesting information, sometimes thought (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) When I first starting getting into building with legos as an adult and realized that I was not the only guy (or girl) over the age of 30 who still played with Lego®, I was into numbers like that after I found Legnet. I would always look at how (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Well, it's difficult to find something to add to your posts, you know! But rest assured, a post by Gary Istok is definitely read, many times. (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
Just a quick update: I've taken a little time and implemented a read-counter for web access to news posts. Now for display of individual articles you will find a new header line saying "Viewed: X times" - it should show the actual views of that (...) (16 years ago, 7-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Holy @#%$!!! That was some fast programming, sir. I bet this may even surpass invite to chat in terms of Great Contributions to the Community! (...) lol - amen to that brother!! (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I'm sure no-one will abuse the system by reloading the page multiple times to increase their own view count either. Just like no-one self-spotlights now ;) (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I'm sure if someone did chastise you for so doing, some (URL) drive-by troller> would leap to your defense. ;) Cheers Richie Dulin CO Legeaux FUT .o-t.fun (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) ;) You know, I actually could have implemented some kind of reload-blocking, but then again I'm pretty sure the effort wouldn't pay off in the long run. I have just checked the read counts collected since the update, and it lists some 16,000 (...) (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) All I can say to that is People Are Weird (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) This is a fantastic implementation! Nicely done! Will there be a future state where we'll get nightly (or weekly) listings for top read articles akin to the top sets list that LUGNET automatically generates? Just wondering. Keep up the (...) (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) This is a fantastic implementation! Nicely done! Will there be a future state where we'll get nightly (or weekly) listings for top read articles akin to the top sets list that LUGNET automatically generates? Just wondering. Keep up the (...) (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I admit I have been tempted to do so already - however the figures as of now are not exactly meaningful yet. This may change rather quickly. I wouldn't want to encourage anyone to "click their posts up the charts" though, if you see what I (...) (16 years ago, 8-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Don't lie! I've heard you say many other things... ROSCO (16 years ago, 9-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) First of all, this is a really nice addition to LUGNET. Thanks, Jerry. Even apart from the worry over some LUGNET posters intentionally driving up their own "view counts" for egotistical reasons, I would appreciate some sort of reload-blocking (...) (16 years ago, 10-Jul-08, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)  
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) I second this thinking. (...) I agree that thumbnails would be cool. I disagree about swapping Top Stories and Latest MOCs. LUGNET is primarily a discussion site, so the stories should remain the focus. Since the center-column articles are (...) (16 years ago, 11-Jul-08, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
 
  Re: How to properly "announce" MOC's
 
(...) Well played Jedi Master Brendan...well played. -Dave ToT-LUG (16 years ago, 11-Jul-08, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)

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