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| | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Timothy Gould
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| | | | (...) Duh! Terrorism of course. 1 Tim 1 Well it seems like a good exucse for every other secret or breach of rights since 2001 so I figure it's got to be good for this one too. (17 years ago, 25-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Nelson Yrizarry
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| | | | (...) Ted- The ideas submitted to TLG were made by the Ambassadors themselves for set/theme designs. Sorry for not phrasing that correctly in my report. "Big Daddy" Nelson (17 years ago, 25-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | (...) Nelson's reply is good, but it should also be said that it mainly isn't to keep secret from the community, but to keep secret from rival companies. If TLG's plans are made known before they are ready to act, other companies could rush a (...) (17 years ago, 25-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Allister McLaren
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| | | | | (...) That surely doesn't apply to the 'Issues List' though. I for one would like to see what was on that list, and why. (...) I'm confused. How did they know thery were redesigned if they were kept secret? (...) Those kooky terrorists. (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | (...) What's on the list? The standard range of complaints that you read about on this or other fora: complaints about colour and quality, piece and set design, themes, gender bias/availability, leaks, availability and pricing and so on. Why? (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | (...) That's still a little vague. I just think if the ambassadors are going to complain in the name of the community, the community should get a say in what they complain about. Personally, I think it'd be better to take just a couple of the (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll bite. This is a mixed question for sure. Product development and release of information are what need to be kept secret absolutely. The people who work on marketing plans and developing new things are dependant on the information not (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) Just a point here. I think this is part of why the Ambassadors got that "Unbassador" logo that I'm sure everyone has seen floating around. Here's a perfect example of something that you could have shared with the community, but didn't and (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX) !!
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Aaron M. Sneary
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| | | | | | | (...) While I agree and reiterate Dave's points, I think that LEGO sees the ambassador program a bit differently. They are not LEGO employees assigned as ambassadors to the AFOL community. I believe LEGO sees them as AFOL members assigned as (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Felix Greco
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I agree communities should choose who represents them. But if it was based on a voting system imagine what would happen; Would people start going to forums and campaigning-- or worse, mudslinging to get votes? I can see that getting really (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Nathan Todd
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Not to pick on you Felix (I would've voted for you in an ambassador contest or just about anything else your MOCs are so interesting ; ) but this line is worth responding to. Eurobricks is without representation despite, I'm told, many of (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) This is an interesting question about how representation should be spread. I believe that each fan should feel like they have access to an Ambassador to a reasonable degree. That is an ideal that, from cycle to cycle, we should move closer to. (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) They all seem pretty quiet to me, with perhaps one exception. (...) I agree. Sometimes, sacrifices have to be made. (...) I must've missed that announcement first time around. It strikes me that this is exactly the sort of thing the community (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I can't speak to what appears to you - but Mark Sandlin, Chris Giddens, Dan Rubin, Adrian Drake, Felix Greco, Peter Reid, and Nelson Yrizarry have all been active and accessible. Partly, I know how difficult it is to give out lots of info on a (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) They may be very active 'in their communities' posting regularly to one forum isn't exactly fitting your definition of 'wide' access. (...) I did mention one notable exception, did I not? (...) Not everyone can make it to Brickfest. Maybe the (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Its certainly not a bad thing for you to mention Nathan's involvement as he was very valuable to that project. Also speaking about your role isn't a bad thing either, here's the reason why there's usually some hesitation when it comes to working on (...) (17 years ago, 31-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX) !
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Your charge was that all the Ambassadors are quiet. They are not quiet. And to clarify what I meant by "wide" - what I do not mean is that Ambassadors should visit sites that they would never had visited in the first place. For example: as (...) (17 years ago, 1-Aug-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX) !
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Well, I certainly believe I am both! (A friend of Allister, and active in my fora). I keep a (URL) LEGOMatrix> of my involvment in the various fora, for those who are interested. Cheers Richie Dulin LEGO Ambassador (17 years ago, 28-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Well, I agree with the first sentence, but not necessarily with your definition in the second. I'm pretty visible in my local community, and everyone has my email (which is pretty well known everywhere) and quite a few have my phone number and (...) (17 years ago, 28-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Felix Greco
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) No offense taken. Because I know some of the European LAs post over at Eurobricks, I assumed that was the representation for that body. They may feel they offer fair representation-- I guess I'm out of my element on this one. Still, I know the (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Nathan Todd
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Late reply but I had a little whip round on EB first... I'd be grateful if you could at least mention these lads before the next cycle as nice patches for an uncovered section of the community, they definitely represent a different group of (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | | | | | | I speak to Jipay from time to time when he's online (haven't seen him lately to tell you the truth). I want to say that we haven't intentionally discriminated against EB, but we simply haven't been able to take some of the people who have applied (...) (17 years ago, 31-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Elroy Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Based on (URL) this brief discussion>, I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling that 9v train fans are being represented. While it is mentioned that the Save 9v Trains campaign has been around for awhile, Nelson's reaction seemed (to me) to be more of (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Benjamin Ellermann
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Elroy, I agree that Train fans currently are not as well represented as they should be. I would encourage leaders in the Train community to apply for the next cycle of LEGO Ambassadors. It is quite possible that few train builders applied last (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Elroy Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Ben, That's all I really need to hear. Thanks for the update. By the way, any work you all have been doing has been great. Recently released sets have been proof of that. -Elroy (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | | Aaron, Its not an unfair indictment on my part. I must admit to being a bit more of an observer and less outgoing than Jake, one of the parts of my job I'm working on at the moment and I will do my best to be more available online. Steve (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Aaron M. Sneary
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| | | | | | | | (...) I guess I was thinking more of unsolicited participation. Honestly, AFOLs tend to ask all the questions TLC employees cannot answer. And I know that you cannot get overly involved in matters of opinion. I just hoped we'd hear irregular updates (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | | I must say I felt a bit hamstrung when LEGO Fan crashed because that's where the blog I was trying to get established was. it was a bit disheartening to tell you the truth. That's going to change soon and I'll have a specific spot to throw out (...) (17 years ago, 31-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | (...) Let me say that I understand your sentiment and your frustration. My aim here is to outline some of the issues that make it difficult to do what seems obvious. Big part of the secrecy issue is actually figuring out what must be kept secret and (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Benjamin Ellermann
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| | | | | | | Lenny, I can share what I made during the Billund design trip because I was granted permission by the Castle product design lead. At Brickworld 2007 I gave a presentation on fan involvement in the design process. Currently I am working on an online (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | (...) Got a link to that? I don't read classic castle, but I am interested in hearing about the achievements of our ambassadors, and again, this must've been one I missed. (...) I look forward to it. (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Benjamin Ellermann
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| | | | | | | | (...) Allister, I have not widely publicized the fan team's involvement with Castle 2007 on Classic-Castle or any other site. Since we are under a separate NDA for Castle, I had to wait for permission on what I could and could not share. This was (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 William R. Ward
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| | | | | | (...) Then it sounds to me like this is an area that Steve and the Ambassadors need to work on. If I were LEGO, what I would do is whenever information is being shared with the Ambassadors, I would include along with that information some indication (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jul-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: LEGO Ambassadors Status Report - Summer 2007 Benjamin Medinets
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| | | | (...) Or how many in the same community were upset that Lego put out the Barbie Knights in the first season of the Knights Kingdom II line. Ben M. (17 years ago, 1-Aug-07, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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