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Re: Flogs, flogging, floggers, brags, bragging, braggers
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms
Date: 
Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:32:00 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:

What I WILL dispute is that any of these are flogs. Unless you define a flog
as the mere mention of something commercial, that is, which is a definition
I dispute. Strongly.

Unfortunately, you aren't the one who gets to define "flog" here.  Todd is, and
he weighed in and agreed that it seemed to be a flog.  So, accept that the post
in question was considered to be a flog, and probably shouldn't have been made
in the form and group it was made in.

Besides, let's take apart what you posted, shall we?

From:  http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=10097

In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.trains, Steven  Barile writes:

Thanks, and now can we discuss something else like... who built a killer
train out of all these bulk packs we've been begging for for the last 3
years!

Well, since you asked. Twice, no less...

I did. (1) Here you go:

http://www.miltontrainworks.com/item_info.html#MTW-3002-bu

How do I know it's killer? I'm almost out of my first production run
already... But then what else would you expect from Milton Train Works,
*the* premier custom train kit purveyor?? Other people may have released
models before I did (2), other people may have released models that cost
less(3), but no one has a better or broader train product range. Not even
LEGO(r). At least not yet anyway.

Can you explain how the following bits:

But then what else would you expect from Milton Train Works,
*the* premier custom train kit purveyor??

and

Other people may have released
models before I did (2), other people may have released models that cost
less(3), but no one has a better or broader train product range. Not even
LEGO(r). At least not yet anyway.

are an answer, in any way, to a question about "killer models" rather than a
flog for your items for sale?

Are we going to ban any mention of things commercial, no matter how passing,
no matter the context, in any group that doesn't have market somewhere in
its name? That would be wrong.

Why?  If I had something for sale, I would respect the hierarchy of discussion
and simply refrain from posting it where people who possibly had no interest in
seeing it wouldn't.  Posting a major flog in a non-market group is no less
annoying than a cold sales call.

- I don't deliberately push the rules envelope, I just have stuff I want to
share, I am terribly busy and don't have as much time to do elaborate sites
as I might like, so I share it as soon as I can.

Wasn't this "I don't have enough time" defense thouroughly shot down the last
time someone complained about your flogging habits?

eric



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Flogs, flogging, floggers, brags, bragging, braggers
 
I thought you weren't going to debate this? (...) Granted, but I do get to question the definition and point out where I think it's awry. Which is what I'm doing. (...) And Todd never changes his mind? Seemed to be != is, necessarily. (...) So (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
  Re: Flogs, flogging, floggers, brags, bragging, braggers
 
(...) I suppose I wasn't totally clear in what I wrote earlier. Yes, I personally happen to feel that what (not ++, that's not part of his name)Lar wrote was a flog (IMHO), but I also added that I thought it was more brag than flog. To make an (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)

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  Re: Flogs, flogging, floggers, brags, bragging, braggers
 
Thank you, Rose, for taking the time to dig up the links to all of these posts... it was very thoughtful to put them in one place for folks to look at. Before reading the rest of this post, people may actually want to go review them again as my (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)

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