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Thank you, Rose, for taking the time to dig up the links to all of these
posts... it was very thoughtful to put them in one place for folks to look at.
Before reading the rest of this post, people may actually want to go review
them again as my arguments are based on them (that is, based on the actual
posts, not my intent).
In lugnet.admin.general, Rose Regner writes:
> Oh, Lar. You have had auction posts in Train that were "pseudo"
> information/auction posts. I personally feel that you toe the line on some
> of these and thus have shown a history.
>
> A search ( Pieniazek ebay ) in trains reveals the following;
> http://news.lugnet.com/market/auction/?n=3608 to be fair, the follow up to
> this post http://news.lugnet.com/market/auction/?n=3612
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> http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=9730
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> http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=7467
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> http://news.lugnet.com/market/theory/?n=1715
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> Some of your models do deserve bragging, but you have also shown a pattern
> of bragging. :)
I won't dispute a pattern of bragging. I am, after all, a braggart.
What I WILL dispute is that any of these are flogs. Unless you define a flog
as the mere mention of something commercial, that is, which is a definition
I dispute. Strongly.
EVERY ONE of these has as its topic something entirely different from a pure
"hey I have something to sell" message. Most of them started quite
interesting (dare I say significant in some cases) threads of discussion.
Are we going to ban any mention of things commercial, no matter how passing,
no matter the context, in any group that doesn't have market somewhere in
its name? That would be wrong. With the discussion commencing on a major
reorg in admin.nntp, this seems an important point. VERY important.
As for the charge that I deliberately push the envelope, I'll take the
lawyer defense: I didn't, but if I did, it isn't against the rules, and if
it's against the rules, the rules are wrong.
- I don't deliberately push the rules envelope, I just have stuff I want to
share, I am terribly busy and don't have as much time to do elaborate sites
as I might like, so I share it as soon as I can. The envelope I am actually
pushing is what is possible to do with this stuff (in a model, in
instructions, in commercial sites, in bands of folks getting together to do
exciting things, in nudging TLC, in trying to bring regular model
railroaders into the fold, etc etc etc).
- There is nothing stated that one cannot come as close as the rules allow
to the edge without going over.
- Nor should there be. If things aren't close to the edge how do we know
where the edges are (or should be)? Nothing succeeds in defining things like
a concrete example.
To sum up, I don't flog, except under a fundamentally flawed definition of
flog. Brag? Guilty as charged.
++Lar
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| (...) Unfortunately, you aren't the one who gets to define "flog" here. Todd is, and he weighed in and agreed that it seemed to be a flog. So, accept that the post in question was considered to be a flog, and probably shouldn't have been made in the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
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