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    Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Naji Norder
   (...) I think James Brown has already expressed my opinion precisely. I see .buy-sell-trade as first-person advertisement, and .shopping for third-person sales or finds. The charter might not be that way, but it makes much more sense to me. (If I (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Frank Filz
   I see the reasoning behind third party announcements in shopping and advertisements in buy-sell-trade, but I see a better reasoning which follows the charter. The line of reasoning is the availability of the deals. The deals advertised (either by (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
     Frank Filz wrote: <snip nice hierarchy/gradation discussion> Well said, I agree with your classification scheme, o Linnaeus. :-) (...) Yes. This is a bit of a hot button for me. I think if you ran an analysis of my posts here on LUGNET(tm) overall a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Steve Bliss
     (...) Disagree, as long as it's in relation to LEGO. Steve (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Todd Lehman
     (...) "Roit!" As long as it's still in relation to LEGO, all of those fit into the charter of .market.theory: "Theory, techniques, methodologies, algorithms, systems, and socio- psychology: in-depth analysis, comparisons, discussion, theoretical (...) (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
     I don't see the question of whether capitalism is a moral and proper system or not as anything more than the most tenouusly related to LEGO... and that, in essence, is what Richard Frank wants to debate. If you're saying that you are OK seeing that (...) (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Todd Lehman
      (...) c /tenouusly/tenuously/ Saying: .market.theory if it's directly related to LEGO .off-topic.debate if it's only tenuously related to LEGO --Todd (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Thank you. Too much staying up late playing Roller Coaster Tycoon (gawd that game is addicting)... (...) Yes... but what position, if any, do you have on this particular question? Is this thread of Richard's in its proper place or not? Or are (...) (25 years ago, 12-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Mike Stanley
      (...) Hunh? Wow, maybe now I know why I'm not a traniac like you. I thought it was the most mind-numbingly boring game I'd ever played. (...) Ouch. True, but ouch. -- The parts you want and nothing else? (URL) - Just Another Brick Auction Why pay (...) (25 years ago, 12-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) OK, followups set to off-topic.fun on this. Well, I guess I like economic simulations and I like physics simulations. I also was a big fan of the original Railroad Tycoon (Sid Meyer) and Chris Parker's earlier (at least I think it was him) (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Steve Campbell
      (...) Larry, have plans for LEGOnut Cedar Point CoasterFallFest '99 been solidified? I know it would take a miracle for me to go but they do occasionally happen. Anyway, SteveC Perilous Pirate Page (URL) moved the Lighthouse! To find out how: (URL) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Scott Edward Sanburn
      If it is, I am there! Tell all, Larry! :) Scott S. (...) Scott E. Sanburn CADD Operator, CADD Systems Administrator Affiliated Engineers, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI Work Page: (URL) Page: (URL) Page: (URL) more people I meet, the more I like my Lego (...) (25 years ago, 23-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
       Prolly not gonna happen this year, they close soon and we have to move my Mother In Law out of our house into the condo we bought her, which frees up her bedroom so Julia the ex exchange student can move in to it, which frees up the fusball room so (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
      
           Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Scott Edward Sanburn
       Larry, Well, if you ever do, I will be there! Sounds like a blast! What is Valley Fair? Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
      
           RE: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
       Valley Fair! is another CedarFair park (they own another one in PA too, I think) in Shakopee MN, which is near where I happen to be this week. I've never been there. Today is the last day the GP can go so I am going after work... I have to stay (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Larry Pieniazek
      whoops, forgot the footnote 1 - that means I spent 87K plus closing costs just to get room to build! (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Frank Filz
      (...) Now that's a dedicated LEGO builder... Actually, for me, part of the justification for my buying a house (when I finally do it, it's been put on hold while I wait to see just what IBM selling my product area to CISCO will mean) would be to get (...) (25 years ago, 24-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Mike Stanley
     (...) Yeah, once you wander off into the "gee, it sure isn't fair that people with more money than I have are able to buy all the sets I want on eBay. I think people are evil for selling their stuff to the highest bidder instead of whipping out the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —James Brown
     (...) Hmm. Ok, I can see this, excepting that some of the offerings in .shopping lately have been limited in quantity, and some of the offerings in .buy-sell- trade are very broad in scope. Where does the line get drawn? What about (for example) (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Frank Filz
      (...) It seems to me that all of these are probably best off in shopping. Of course if eToys or TRU start posting, I would expect them to keep the posts to a reasonable quantity (1 per week or less, except when announcing specials). The posts in (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Naji Norder
      (...) Ok. What you are saying is that two types of posts belong in .shopping: 1) posts by individuals about sales they have discovered 2) advertisements by companies that sell Lego Ultimately, I don't care at all about #2. However, #1 is so (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Todd Lehman
     (...) Simple: * Competition among buyers where bids/offers are used to solicit progressively higher bids/offers: --> .market.auction * Direct sale or trade of items between individuals, where some negotiation between buyer & seller or subjective (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Mike Stanley
      Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:37d96fa0.524958...net.com... (...) to (...) venue? (...) posting (...) Maybe it's just that some of the newer people missed some of the discussion leading up to the various groups, but it's (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Naji Norder
       (...) But why put put both in the same newsgroup? Having a newsgroup hierarchy allows these two types of messages to be separated from each other. Someone using mindstorms might not care about Duplo, so those two are separated. Someone who cares (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
      
           Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Naji Norder
        (...) Before this discussion goes off in the wrong direction, I want to clarify a little. I understand that the newsgroup hierarchy can't and shouldn't be chopped into millions of newsgroups, each with 3 messages in it. However, even Mike shows a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
      
           Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Mike Stanley
       (...) I don't know that I totally disagree with you (I'm certainly not taking "another side" against which you would need to defend yourself) but at this point in time I don't see what the big deal is. It seems like one or two people who maybe (...) (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
      
           Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Naji Norder
       (...) Well, the occasional porno post to rtl isn't a big deal either. I don't have to see them in pine, and I just delete them and they go away. That doesn't mean that don't bother me. (...) I'm terribly sorry that I didn't follow rtl when Lugnet (...) (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Steve Bliss
      (...) I'm not new, and I've never viewed .shopping that way. .shopping was created for buyers to share information they've gotten, and do a little bragging about victories they've achieved. Steve (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —James Brown
      (...) sell- (...) Ok. Then the problem migrates back to community awareness (unless I'm still confused <grin>). I did a quick scan of all the offers to sell a set(or sets) in .bst in September. Out of 20 offers, 12 of them were (either stated or (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Todd Lehman
      (...) Hmm, I sure wouldn't call those "shopping." A "one-off" (like some old castle set) that's offered first-come-first-serve to someone is still a BST type of thing. (...) No, they should be in .market.buy-sell-trade unless they like some kind of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —James Brown
      In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: <snipped stuff> (...) Hmm, ok. I guess I'm just still confused. :) I just don't see a fundamental difference between Bob selling old sets every few weeks, and "Bob's Lego Emporium" selling old sets every (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Naji Norder
       (...) want. However, I can also ask for it to be changed. :-) BTW, thanks for taking my side in this discussion. I'm never to proud to appreciate help. Much thanks, Naji (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Steve Bliss
      (...) Really? I see a difference. Unfortunately, it's not a sharp, well-defined line. Bob might start out with occasional posts of sets he's come across, and over time segue into an permanent setup, where people can expect him to have additional (...) (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Steve Bliss
      (...) Just my 2 bits- I've just reread the charter for lugnet.market.shopping, and I think the charter is broken (ok, maybe the charter can't be broken by definition, but it's still broken). Here's a quote from (URL), where the creation of (...) (25 years ago, 11-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Jon Kozan
     (...) venue? (...) I guess I shouldn't post to .buy-sell-trade? FWIW, I'll negotiate price ;-) BAYLIT (Jon) (25 years ago, 15-Sep-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: New Items on The Vault - 9/9/99 —Frank Filz
   Since attention was brought to this post, after re-reading it, I have some comments (nothing very serious)... (...) In light of the recent reports on the S@H phone specials, perhaps they don't belong in lugnet.market.shopping any more. I'm referring (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 

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