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    Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Tim Courtney
   (...) I like this idea as well. But I think we should wait on the results of the vote first - because he has gone over the edge with his antics (as far as I'm concerned) and I'd like to see a break where I don't have to worry about his posts at all. (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I'm not sure I buy this. What value, exactly, does a signature bring? It seems decorative, and the value is mostly to the appender being able to make: (...) political statements or statements about their belief systems (...) more information (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —John VanZwieten
       Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37BAC40E.8DA1F2...ger.net... (...) I think it's mostly a netiquete problem which compounds JW's other netiquete deficiencies. Maybe it's just nice to know there is a real person behind the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Mike Stanley
       (...) Having a sig does nothing, imo, to make a message more personal or make it clearer that a person had something to do with it. My newsreader injects sig.txt into my messages every time I post on - I have nothing to do with it. (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Matthew Miller
       (...) I think I'm with Larry on this one. While a .sig is certainly traditional, I wouldn't go so far as to call it required by netiquette. (Especially in cases like lugnet, where there's not much fear of the header info being lost.) And actually, (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Jeff Boen
      (...) as i pointed out to todd in a personal email days ago.. it's true.. people do overlook certain netiquette-breaking rules, depending on the overall picture you've painted of yourself and your demeanor... i never deal with titlecase when writing (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Mike Stanley
      (...) Of course not. It's ridiculous to think that people should be forced to use a sig. Your name's in the header, both handle and real name if you use one. What possible reason could we as a community come up with to justify forcing anyone to use (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Patricia Schempp
       (...) I have also found the sig issue confusing. I used to use one, but the people i send e-mail to all the time got sick of it very quickly, as did I. And, I am too lazy to change it all the time. Besides, long rambling sigs are more of an (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Paul Sinasohn
      I agree with Larry P. on the signature issue - it IS nice to have, but I'm not sure it's super-useful, at least when using the web interface to read LUGNET. I ususally don't put a full signature on messages... just my name and sometimes a comment. (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Todd Lehman
     (...) Me neither. IMHO, having or not having a sig is a very personal choice, not a mandate by any stretch of the imagination. Probably only about half* of all the people on the net even use sigs. Personally, I don't use a sig because I find it much (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —John VanZwieten
     (...) Maybe someone can enlighten me, but I always considered "--Todd" to be the electronic equivalent of a "signature." (...) I agree here. It's the content of the posts, not the form, that really causes upset. (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Todd Lehman
     (...) Oh. OK, yeah, I guess in the context of news posts, it could be considered an electronic equivalent of a real-life signature. But I thought we were talking about sigs (a.k.a. signature files). --Todd (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Steve Bliss
     [Hey! I remembered to trim the rest of the newsgroups header this time!] (...) I've gotta agree with the other follow-uppers on this point: lack of a signature is no reason, or even part of a reason, for disciplinary action. I feel the same about (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Sig a probational condition?, philosophy of what we are doing (was Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Larry Pieniazek
     I just reviewed this subthread's responses and I didn't see a single person, so far, who felt that use of a sig was mandatory, so I'm not sure I'd either - be all that upset about it the larger scheme of things... or - make it be one of the terms of (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Sig a probational condition?, philosophy of what we are doing (was Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Frank Filz
      Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <37BB20F7.439C93D1@v...er.net>... *snip* (...) Seconded. *snip* (...) Hear Hear. Frank (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Jonathan Wilson
   (...) Because of the way I access the internet I am unable to use a signature. (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Todd Lehman
     (...) You might be able to, after all. According to your NNTP headers, You appear to be using Netscape 4.03 for Win95: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) I'm not too familiar with that version, but I know that 4.5 has sig-file capability: In the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) point releases generally don't add much functionality. I'm running 4.04 and easily generate the below, so certainly 4.03 has the capability as well, when used to do news or mail. So maybe there's another reason? But like I said, sigs are small (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Jonathan Wilson
       (...) I know how to do it but the owner of the system I use wont let me set one up. (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Look into multiple profiles. Netscape will let you have as many profiles as you wish and you can choose among them, the sig file used is driven by which profile you select on startup. (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
      
           Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Matthew Miller
       (...) Still, if it's not his system, the owner may be weird about things like this and not want it changed. It may not be worth the trouble. (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Naji Norder
      (...) up. Signing a post is easy. At the end, when you're ready to send, type the following: [return] [return] "J" "o" "n" [return] And then send the message as usual. If you prefer, you could spell your first name out. Personally, I think anything (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Mike Stanley
      (...) Hmmmmm.... my sigs have evolved over time. They started out being the main sure-fire way someone could find out the number to S@H and the web address of the specials page. I wouldn't call that wasteful junk. Now they point people to one of two (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Christian Holtje
     (...) Of course, he might be using *lab* computers, where he shares his setup with everone else. In that case, you can set up the preferences on a floppy, including your bookmarks and such. I believe there is a user app that will let you do that. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Bram Lambrecht
   (...) That shouldn't keep you from signing your messages. When posting from the web interface, I sign by adding "--Bram" to the end. If I'm emailing, I use a complete signature. There's nothing stopping you from typing your name at then end of a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Jonathan Wilson
      (...) Aaah. now I see Like this: JW (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Richard Laing
      (...) I wonder if anyone else watching from the sidelines is finding this as absurd as I am? Insisting on how someone should sign their postings? (if at all). Any messages I get in Eudora clearly indicate who they are from before I even open them. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Todd Lehman
     (...) Heh. Well I think Bram might've been suggesting was more like this: --Jonathan When he said, "the same way you would sign a letter," he meant a written letter, not signing with letters. (I think. :-) --Todd (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Mike Stanley
      (...) Well, either way, I think those two extra letters added quite a bit of meaning to the post. :) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Ryan Dennett
     (...) writes: (...) posting from (...) If I'm (...) stopping you from (...) would sign a (...) this: (...) a written (...) Funny, Todd :-) I really don't think it matters which way he signs it; we know what JW means. :) Ryan "You have to stick to (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Jonathan Wilson's posting privileges on LUGNET —Mike Stanley
   (...) There is also no reason to even think about requiring that, is there? Nobody really thinks typing a few extra characters manually at the end of a post or e-mail makes the thing any more or less personal, do they? It really ISN'T like signing a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

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