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(...) LOL! :) BTW, I realize from your final paragraph that you weren't 100% serious, but it's worth reiterating something anyway for anyone following along... The ID#'s won't be transferrable, so whatever number you pick is with you for life. In (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Along the lines of the community map, I suggest starting each of the numbers with some type of classifying attribute. In other words beginning all member numbers with the year of birth, or year they started reading rtl, they year they signed up to (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I wonder if that opens up to too much variation and confusion. No one can ever change their ID# once it's been chosen, so the more variation or flexibility there is, the more chance there is for frustration when someone's tastes change. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip> (...) I have several suggestions: 1) Why not just make the numbers internal to the system so that we never see them. That way we could all be given any old number and the part that we would see would be a username of some sort. I'm sure (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Because of URLs that contain them. (...) I've yet to see a username-system that (a) handles collisions in a reasonable way if the usernames are system-assigned, or (b) doesn't lead quickly to garbage if the usernames are user-chosen. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm. Awright, maybe it's worth taking a major 180 here and taking a closer look at non-numeric member-id's (i.e., usernames). Personally, I think usernames are nothing but a major source of headaches once a user population grows (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) I totally agree. (...) Hey watch the AOL bashing :') But since you brought up AOL usernames - AOL allows the cability of 5 different screen names for the same account. This allows familys to have a name for each memebr of a family. Not to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Not sure where I stand on all this or if it really matters to me, but I thought I would mention this. All (or most, anyway) of my current login names that I actually have to type on a regular basis are cjc. Yeah, I like the initials because (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Univeristies do the username made from name thing all the time. Maybe you could look at some of those systems. Of course they all do it differently, but I'm so dang used to pschemp, I would want to use that. It beats the schempppat I got at another (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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How about people just use whatever they have been called in the past? As for new members and garbage names, you could have a submit area that sends chosen names to a special LUGNET email, where they then could be manually read, and the garbage names (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Need to read more but seems to me that any mechanistic scheme needs an escape clause. if we go with letter IDs, then have the automation be relatively harsh and inflexible, but allow appeal. I know, I know, you don't want to be the decider, because (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) One and exactly one ID per person is the foundation principle. I suppose there could be such a thing as family or group discounts, but each person has to receive their own membership. The membership is what handles data on a person-by-person (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, the nice part about this is that, unless you have cookies completely disabled, you won't ever have to type your username. So if your username is something other than "cjc", then it wouldn't be a constant frustration to switch back and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) That was a thought, but think about it from the censorship standpoint: On the legal side, when you start trying to filter out things that are offensive or vulgar or profane, you open yourself up to more scrutiny if you then accidentally miss (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) That sounds like a great idea. (...) We could do that. BTW, what do you mean by "appeal"? Someone recevies a "didn't pass" message and voluntarily says "Hey, I'd like to appeal that decision?" That's kind of neat, because, perhaps ultimately (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) If you look at this situation from how it exists already, you will find that 99% of the internet's Lego community are civilized adults, the rest being civilized teenagers or whatever, so you don't really have to worry about "gray areas," at (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yes. (...) I meant that it would go to a relatively small board, self selected, but with your veto on membership, that would make the call. Form-of-Government-wise I'm more of a republican than a democrat(1), I think putting these questions to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Did I really need to quote? I'm sure most everyone knows what's going on. Anyway, here's a possible sollution that I'm keen on (please hear the newbie out....) I sign up for a membership and, since the system advances member numbers (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Oh, believe me, I *have* looked at it...! :-) Been seriously looking at this on and off for years... (...) The gray areas I'm thinking of aren't so much the offensive or vulgar things (although I'm sure there are some things which are both (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) That makes sense. I have always favored constitutional republics over pure democracies as well. (...) If it's avoidable. (...) I meant, because of all the help you gave last summer and before that and after that, I'll help make sure that you (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Naw, in this case, quoting probably doesn't add much, because you're posting something almost totally new. (...) Well, the member-ID's are unique -mainly- for URLs on the outside, but also for system-database purposes on the inside. In the URL (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Oh! Oh! I can explain this one! My last name is pronounced muh-JEH-skee, but people always say muh-JOOS-kee, which led to the nickname Juice for me. Also, my favorite color is orange which led some people to call me Orange Juice, which let to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hey, that's a pretty great story! It's always fun to hear how nicknames come about. (...) Well, keep in mind, the goal here is to discourage (in a mechanical way) general "aliases" or "handles" or "screen names." You probably wouldn't be able (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) No, my father's first name is Michael and he is the one who registered our internet service. With my service, you can only have one "name," so it has always been Mmaje for me until I registered with Yahoo!, but even then when I posted to RTL, (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I'm reading above, the Member IDs really serve no purpose other than a system ID, similar to a Unix address. They won't be used as an identifier for posting to news/discussion groups. They will be (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Very well put -- Yes, that's about it! As far as I can imagine right now, they'll only appear in URLs. I'm *sure* there must be some other place that they'll pop up someday down the road, but my crystal ball draws a blank on that one today. (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: Uhhh, one us is having server troubles. None of the URLS listed below are working. "The requested URL /people/bobklim/ was not found on this server." (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Heh heh. No, they're not supposed to work; they don't exist. I meant that it boiled down to a choice between *format* A and *format* B, where the two formats were shown by example rather than parameterized. Sorry for the confusion. --Todd (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Oops, sorry about that! I guess my fingers automatically typed "...schme..." for some reason. Maybe because there's a William Schmeckpeper in the online LEGO fan world. Anyway, sorry for not paying closer attention... Glad you have a sense of (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Todd Lehman skrev i meddelandet <377fa446.2704266@lu...et.com>... (...) Yeah, and don't forget other languages! What's perfectly clean in English, may be an insult in another language (no examples will be given), and vice versa. As a side note (I (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) More than you think upto now I think..:-) What about profanity in other languages than English? Lugnet is a multi national community. One example: a simple and innocent looking abbreviation "ats2", which could be both read as its spelling (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote (...) "I want dvbnik" "that doesn't appeal to me" Moz (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yeah! now I'm a pschmep. (sound effects) > schmep schmep schmep. Heheh. sometimes I hate my last name. :) Patricia Schempp pschemp@clemson.edu (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Wow. Well, at least if someone uses "ats2", it'd have to be logically formed from their name, so it would be clear that they weren't just doing it to be rude/offensive. (...) They're not a problem at all from an internal coding standpoint, but (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) That's another reason to restrict the member-ID's only to representations of real-life names...that way, if something happens to be obscene in another language, it's obvious that it was based directly on someone's name, and not obscene on (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) OK, I see the confusion now... Sorry for being ambiguous. When I wrote: "Anyway, here are some examples that do seem gray to me and may need careful attention...(these have all been disclosed publicly on LUGNET by their owners)" in: (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) example: a (...) as (...) the (...) If the individual would be from Turkey, the latter would be true, even if his name would "ahmet tayfun sipahioglu", since it is a common joke..:-) (...) Oh, that old, boring (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) unrelated (...) weren't. (...) I've already get it. But the confusing phrase was not this one, it was: "Those are all fun names, of course, and these people could all *certainly* continue to use these (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Cool. Yes, seems like a good idea. It may be several days after you start it that I get to post to it, though. (...) Marxist. Especially Harpo, he's quite underrated. (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Oh. YES, *that* is *really* ambiguous. I see how anyone could read the wrong thing in that. Oops. OK, let me reword that to say what I actually meant to say: "Those are all fun names, of course, and these people could all certainly continue to (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Ah, got it. Sorry I'm so used to you providing these great sample pages I just automatically clicked on the links. But I do see the delemna with jsut numbers. (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Wow, four names in the family that all start with "se" -- excellent! Do your mother and sister have middle or other familiar names to distinguish between them? (...) Well, internally, there you're "selgore", but only I see that. Externally, (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Actually, I don't see that as much of an issue. As an example, my e-mail address shows up as "galliard@shades-of-night.com", however, the actual POP box I am assigned is "shadesofnight03", which has yet another designation for netnation (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) Actually my sister's name is "Zeynep Sema" but she never used his initial name, so when we visit parents all together, there is always a funy chaos across the names..:-) (...) I prefer using a first name (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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James Brown wrote (...) Sounds good to me. Moz, Chris, "hey you" and whatever else falls my way (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Just a thought, but how about in a chat? If LUGNET had a chatroom down the road, the members would probably use their member name as a screen name. Greg citrusx__@yahoo.com (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Wow! How was DLI? I almost went there. I blew the DLAB out of the water (but I still don't know how...what a confusing experience that was) but a clerical error at the MEPS in St. Louis screwed up when I could start my enlistment and then I (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I was basically goig to write the same note, but wanted to read through the thread first. I should have figured Larry would come up with this answer. I too would volunteer for such a duty (and not be offended if you didn't want me). (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <377F7B94.54831B27@v...er.net>... (...) <snip!> Todd, Maybe I've been watching too much "Law and Order", but... I understand your reluctance to shoulder the huge (!) burden of policing the member name space for (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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This isn't a complaint, just a suggestion. If you're going to try to spell phonetics you should adopt a technically precise notation. For example, you said: (...) It's not at all clear whether you intend your syllable "MUHK" to rhyme with "book" or (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Excellent! OK, by SAMPA, it would yup definitely be /lVg" net/ (thanks!). (And, BTW, I had heard of a "glottal stop" before, but I never knew there was such a thing as a "nasal sonorant" or a "bilabial fricative"! I'm thinkin' TomMcD and (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hmm. Y'know, you're right! -- I should've simply written MUCK. By MUHK, I was trying to get the "uh" sound. I'm no phoneticist! :) Anyway, so his last named is actually pronounced MUCK-ow, but we incorrectly pronounced it MOO-kow (or MUKE-ow), (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I don't actually know a sonorant from a fricative either, aside from what I can figure out by looking at the examples. But if Tom and Jeremy are into linguistics they probably already know more about it than we do {-; (...) You can use it if (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Fortunately, you don't expect me to pass this one up. (...) That's okay. It's a little-known fact that a sonorant is the high-pitched sqawking sound made by someone rapidly applying a rubber eraser to a pencil mark on a shaky metal table. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) LOL!!! I'm laughing so hard I can hardly breathe. God, what I would give for a daily word-definition like that by e-mail in the morning, or an "Ask Jeremy" box on a web page where you could ask what a word meant. :) --Todd (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) It's a "smart-ass thing" actually. (...) can (...) The first table-joint lubricant, made largely of walrus fat oil and safflower extract, was called "Dr. Numba's Anti-Sonorant Potion". Dr. Numba was an alias of a former carpet-bagger turned (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Avid "Northern Exposure" fans might recall that a bilabial fricative refers to the state of mind one achieves while awaiting an answer from an Athapascan spirit while consming bilibiatho (1) blowing in from Inuit grounds. Cheers, - jsproat 1. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I assumed Todd *did* mean 'MUHK' to rhyme with 'muck'. I didn't think about it at the time, but 'UH' doesn't look much like it should be pronounced like the sounds in either "book" or "fluke". Steve (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hostess Sno-balls are good example of the usage of this substance. -Tom McD. when replying, little wedge-shaped spamcakes make good climbing pitons. (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) That's essentially the problem with colloquial phonetic spelling -- there are two methods. Some people (like me) use existing words whenever existing words are available: Todd: "TODD", Lugnet: "LUG-net", Steve: "STEVE", phonetic: (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Hey, how close is that to TWOD? (I gather that's the native-East-Coast way to pronounce it -- similar to BWOS'-tin. :) Where I grew up (Minneapolis) it's pronounced TAHD, but not quite the nasal TAAHHHD that they say in Milwaukee and Chicago. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message <37a0e8e2.108331275@...et.com>... (...) Is the east coast you refer to the upper part of maine? I never heard it pronounced like that. (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Ah, a great mystery of life has become revealed. Now I understand Todd's attraction to LEGO. Being from Mininoplace, he naturally took to minifigs. :') (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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