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Todd Lehman wrote in message ...
> In lugnet.admin.general, Selçuk Göre writes:
> > > That *is* something deep to think about, wow.
> >
> > More than you think upto now I think..:-) What about profanity in other
> > languages than English? Lugnet is a multi national community. One example: a
> > simple and innocent looking abbreviation "ats2", which could be both read as
> > its spelling "atese iki" and as a combined word "atsiki". The second one
> > means exactly the reproductory extremity of a male horse, expressed in the
> > most rude/slang way possible.
>
> Wow.
>
> Well, at least if someone uses "ats2", it'd have to be logically formed
> from their name, so it would be clear that they weren't just doing it to
> be rude/offensive.
If the individual would be from Turkey, the latter would be true, even if
his name would "ahmet tayfun sipahioglu", since it is a common joke..:-)
>
> > Another thing to consider: What about letters like ç and ö like in my
> > name?
>
> They're not a problem at all from an internal coding standpoint, but they
> don't work in URLs, so the letters have to be ASCII a-z only. Your best
> bet might be something like 'sgore'.
Oh, that old, boring "sgore" again..:-( What if could manage to make my
relaltives lego maniacs some day?..:-)
Sema Gore (sister)
Sema Gore (wife)
Senay gore (mother)
..heheh. most probably I would prefer selcukg (auczilla nick..:-)
Anyway, I could withstand it although I would not so happy (teyyareci is my
real life nick, although not used very very frequently). What about short
forms of names? for example "selo" is the short form of Selçuk. another gray
area, right?..:-)
>
> > They are already part of code page 437, but I know they could
> > cause some problem here or there.
>
> What is code page 437? Is that some Microshaft thing? (I seem to remember
> something like this back from my NT/army days.) The important thing, really,
> is that ç and ö are part of ISO-8859-1 (a real standard), but not part of
> ASCII (another real standard). Microshaft code pages aren't real standards.
>
I'm not very deep in the subject, but Is ASCII has 128 or 256 characters? If
second is true, code page 437 is the default codepage (US) for IBM
compatible PC's and exactly same as ASCII, and contains many specialized
characters like ç and ö. If ASCII has only 128 characters, then first 128
characters of the code page 437 exactly coincided with ASCII (as well as
other code pages since only differences could be found through latter 128
characters). Those are all from old days of MS/IBM-PC DOS era.
As far as I know, ISO 8859-1 is for western languages only, and the standard
that covers all the Turkish alphabet is ISO 8859-9 (according to Netscape
communicator)
>
> > And the most important, what about my nick "teyyareci". I've been using
> > it since I'm first started using Internet, and it has been a nick for
> > also long before my Internet life. You already mentioned some "special"
> > provisions to allow older users to continue their well known nicks, that
> > are not related to their names,
>
> No, that wasn't to give special treatment to anyone to use nicks unrelated
> to their names, it was citing examples of gray-area cases.
>
>
> > But how can you explain this to a new comer who also want to
> > use his beloved nick? "Hey, lamer. He was already here when you still
> > sitting on your mother's laptop. Don't ask this much lame questions
> > ever!.."...:-)
> > Selçuk
>
> LOL!
>
> Exactly -- that's why "seniority" only should count in the first-come-first-
> serve sense, but not ever in a "truly special favors" sense.
>
> --Todd
:-D Member ID# could serve this well. In a science fiction novel that I've
read, smaller social security number (tattooed on peoples skin) means the
higher social carrier..:-)
Selçuk
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