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Re: member id's: simple numbers or something more?
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:15:39 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ...
In lugnet.admin.general, Selçuk Göre writes:
That *is* something deep to think about, wow.

More than you think upto now I think..:-) What about profanity in other
languages than English? Lugnet is a multi national community. One • example: a
simple and innocent looking abbreviation "ats2", which could be both read • as
its spelling "atese iki" and as a combined word "atsiki". The second one
means exactly the reproductory  extremity of a male horse, expressed in • the
most rude/slang way possible.

Wow.

Well, at least if someone uses "ats2", it'd have to be logically formed
from their name, so it would be clear that they weren't just doing it to
be rude/offensive.


If the individual would be from Turkey, the latter would be true, even if
his name would "ahmet tayfun sipahioglu", since it is a common joke..:-)


Another thing to consider: What about letters like ç and ö like in my
name?

They're not a problem at all from an internal coding standpoint, but they
don't work in URLs, so the letters have to be ASCII a-z only.  Your best
bet might be something like 'sgore'.


Oh, that old, boring "sgore" again..:-( What if could manage to make my
relaltives lego maniacs some day?..:-)

Sema Gore (sister)
Sema Gore (wife)
Senay gore (mother)

..heheh. most probably I would prefer selcukg (auczilla nick..:-)

Anyway, I could withstand it although I would not so happy (teyyareci is my
real life nick, although not used very very frequently). What about short
forms of names? for example "selo" is the short form of Selçuk. another gray
area, right?..:-)


They are already part of code page 437, but I know they could
cause some problem here or there.

What is code page 437?  Is that some Microshaft thing?  (I seem to remember
something like this back from my NT/army days.)  The important thing, • really,
is that ç and ö are part of ISO-8859-1 (a real standard), but not part of
ASCII (another real standard).  Microshaft code pages aren't real • standards.


I'm not very deep in the subject, but Is ASCII has 128 or 256 characters? If
second is true, code page 437 is the default codepage (US) for IBM
compatible PC's and exactly same as ASCII, and contains many specialized
characters like ç and ö. If ASCII has only 128 characters, then first 128
characters of the code page 437 exactly coincided with ASCII (as well as
other code pages since only differences could be found through latter 128
characters). Those are all from old days of MS/IBM-PC DOS era.

As far as I know, ISO 8859-1 is for western languages only, and the standard
that covers all the Turkish alphabet is ISO 8859-9 (according to Netscape
communicator)


And the most important, what about my nick "teyyareci". I've been using
it since I'm first started using Internet, and it has been a nick for
also long before my Internet life. You already mentioned some "special"
provisions to allow older users to continue their well known nicks, that
are not related to their names,

No, that wasn't to give special treatment to anyone to use nicks unrelated
to their names, it was citing examples of gray-area cases.


But how can you explain this to a new comer who also want to
use his beloved nick? "Hey, lamer. He was already here when you still
sitting on your mother's laptop. Don't ask this much lame questions
ever!.."...:-)
Selçuk

LOL!

Exactly -- that's why "seniority" only should count in the • first-come-first-
serve sense, but not ever in a "truly special favors" sense.

--Todd

:-D Member ID# could serve this well. In a science fiction novel that I've
read, smaller social security number (tattooed on peoples skin) means the
higher social carrier..:-)

Selçuk



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(...) Wow, four names in the family that all start with "se" -- excellent! Do your mother and sister have middle or other familiar names to distinguish between them? (...) Well, internally, there you're "selgore", but only I see that. Externally, (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)

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  Re: member id's: simple numbers or something more?
 
(...) Wow. Well, at least if someone uses "ats2", it'd have to be logically formed from their name, so it would be clear that they weren't just doing it to be rude/offensive. (...) They're not a problem at all from an internal coding standpoint, but (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)

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