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Re: Cracking down on unauthorized image links
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lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Thu, 3 Jun 1999 02:07:13 GMT
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I need to have something clarified: Is it ok to tell people to go to
www.lugnet.com and do a search for a set (not a direct link)? I don't sell too
many completed sets on  eBay, but I would like to know for future
reference...like when I find a sealed 6067 at a garage sale,  put it up on
eBay,and then use the money to start the boys on trains. (ok, I'm dreaming).

I often tell my eBay bidders about lugnet, I see one of the people I informed
has done quite a bit of bidding on "X".

Julie


Todd Lehman wrote:

> I just happened across a couple unauthorized links from eBay auctions
> directly to images of sets hosted on the lugnet.com server.  What people are
> doing is linking from various places (mostly eBay auctions) directly to the
> JPEG images.  This is a big "no-no":  it's against general web netiquette
> and it's also something I have always for years advised people against,
> whenever they have asked, or been caught.
> 
> In addition to the fact that URLs of the other peoples' images are always
> subject to change at any time without notice, it's really unethical to link
> directly to other peoples' images without their permission, since they are
> stuck with the bill for the bandwidth, yet they receive nothing in return.
> 
> Instead of embedding images hosted on other peoples' servers, people should
> link to the other peoples' web pages -- or make a local copy of the image
> they want (presumably with permission from the copyright owner) and host it
> on their own homepage (on geocities or the auction site or wherever).  Note:
> I don't own the copyright on the LEGO images, so don't ask me for permission
> to copy it; use your own judgment as governed by TLG's "Fair Play" policy.
> 
> In the past, I knew that this sort of funny-business was happening from time
> to time, but I never really paid it much concern because it wasn't really
> eating much bandwidth.  However, times have changed:  I just ran a script to
> check where things stand today, and here are the results:
> 
> Over the past 2 weeks, 761 megabytes of JPEG image transfers occurred to
> off-site pages embedding the images without permission.  This is still a
> long way from representing a "break-the-bank" level of link-piracy, but
> nevertheless it's beginning to get out-of-hand.
> 
> The robust, long-term solution is to serve the JPEG images selectively to
> on-site pages and reject them to off-site pages, using an Apache webserver
> module called "mod_rewrite" and looking at the HTTP referrer field on-the-
> fly; or invoking a CGI script whenever an image is requested, and optionally
> doing more advanced filtering.
> 
> The less-robust, short-term solution is simply to rename the image
> directories, thus breaking all of the bad links.  This would certainly stop
> the problem, but doing that is like mowing over a weed rather than digging
> it up by the roots -- the problem will come right back to full intensity in
> a couple weeks.
> 
> Probably both will happen -- first the short-term solution and later the
> long-term solution.  I'm not going to personally write everyone who's doing
> unauthorized linking (I don't think they deserve any warning, anyway); this
> message serves as the only "notice" to freeloaders...
> 
> --Todd
> 
> [followups set to lugnet.admin.general]



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  Re: Cracking down on unauthorized image links
 
(...) Absolutely, yes, 100% OK. But better yet, give them a link to the page showing the set, for example: (URL) or (URL) please don't link directly to the underlying JPEG image files, i.e.: (URL) or (URL) (27 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Cracking down on unauthorized image links
 
I just happened across a couple unauthorized links from eBay auctions directly to images of sets hosted on the lugnet.com server. What people are doing is linking from various places (mostly eBay auctions) directly to the JPEG images. This is a big (...) (27 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.announce)

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