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Hi!
Just found on BrickLink
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
If true, it would be really interesting...
Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
Luca
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Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Just found on BrickLink
> http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
>
> Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
>
> If true, it would be really interesting...
Ohhh, looks interesting...
Nothing on brickshelf yet :(
--
Dean Earley, Dee (dean@earlsoft.co.uk)
irc: irc://irc.blitzed.org/
web: http://personal.earlsoft.co.uk
phone: +44 (0)780 8369596
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Just found on BrickLink
> http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
>
> Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
>
> If true, it would be really interesting...
Strange the BL admins approved it with such a minimal pic - unless they have
more info, which isn't forthcoming yet.
ROSCO
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In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just found on BrickLink
> > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> >
> > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> >
> > If true, it would be really interesting...
>
> Strange the BL admins approved it with such a minimal pic - unless they have
> more info, which isn't forthcoming yet.
>
> ROSCO
Yes, it is really strange. I suppose it is true, but if I were the moderator of
the BrickLink catalog, I would wait something more than a little picture.
Luca
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Just found on BrickLink
> http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
>
> Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
>
> If true, it would be really interesting...
>
> Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> Luca
There's also a passenger train http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=7897-1
with a tiny pic
I'm not sure what to think.
Tim
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In lugnet.org.it.itlug, Tim David wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just found on BrickLink
> > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> >
> > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> >
> > If true, it would be really interesting...
> >
> > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > Luca
>
> There's also a passenger train http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=7897-1
> with a tiny pic
> I'm not sure what to think.
Both pics provided by somebody in Hungary. Weird.
ROSCO
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Tim David wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just found on BrickLink
> > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> >
> > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> >
> > If true, it would be really interesting...
> >
> > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > Luca
>
>
> There's also a passenger train http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=7897-1
> with a tiny pic
> I'm not sure what to think.
>
> Tim
It doesn't look like the track has metal rails. So, I wonder if these
are some of the battery-powered remote-controled trains that LEGO
announced at BrickFest. I remember seeing a green train; although, I
cannot say if it was that train, in fact, it could have been a picture
of a green box car that I saw. Also, I don't remember seeing anything
that looked like the passenger train. Never the less, those pictures
don't really look like box art either. It could be an interesting year!
Chris
--
http://users.rcn.com/cjmasi/lego/
Learn about brittle bone disease
http://www.oif.org/
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
> Tim David wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Just found on BrickLink
> > > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> > >
> > > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> > >
> > > If true, it would be really interesting...
> > >
> > > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > > Luca
> >
> >
> > There's also a passenger train http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=7897-1
> > with a tiny pic
> > I'm not sure what to think.
> >
> > Tim
>
> It doesn't look like the track has metal rails. So, I wonder if these
> are some of the battery-powered remote-controled trains that LEGO
> announced at BrickFest. I remember seeing a green train; although, I
> cannot say if it was that train, in fact, it could have been a picture
> of a green box car that I saw. Also, I don't remember seeing anything
> that looked like the passenger train. Never the less, those pictures
> don't really look like box art either. It could be an interesting year!
>
> Chris
I believe in 2006, the new trains will be Remote Control and not have metal
rails, as discussed / announced at Brickfest.
I like the new passenger train design.
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Just found on BrickLink
> http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
>
> Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
>
> If true, it would be really interesting...
>
> Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> Luca
Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just found on BrickLink
> > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> >
> > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> >
> > If true, it would be really interesting...
> >
> > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > Luca
>
> Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
>
> Tim
I'm wondering if they are effective sets or just prototypes. About 4 jears ago
(really much time has gone!) we've already seen a look-like-ICE train with a
white-red livery, but later the set had a green strip (somebody sad due to some
royalty that Lego should had paid to the DB...).
Anyway thanks for the news!
Luca
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
>
> Tim
Hmm. Hypothesising on these pictures...
You can see the raised 'patch' on the side of both engines, like that that
appeared in Jake's keynote speech. I don't think it's stretching the
imagination too much to take this to be an IR sensor - this could even indicate
there's a sensor on each side. The middle block below the baseplate is large,
and similar on both engines, so I'm guessing this is the battery and controller
compartment.
Counting the sleepers underneath, it looks like a 30-stud train baseplate. That
would make it a new piece. It would be nice if the sensor / battery box just
clipped on to an ordinary baseplate, or better yet if the ends of the baseplate
plugged in to the box (making them useful as variable length baseplates), but
since this is all about reducing costs it's probably all moulded as one piece.
That looks like an ordinary grey motor side bar fitted to a black motor, but I
don't understand the black spots at the wheel centres. (Note the two studs on
the top of the grey side bars on the front bogey. The rear bogey has three
studs on top, giving away that it's a brick-built bogus motor).
The track clearly doesn't have metal caps on, but note also there's no metal
visible on the motor wheels. So, it looks like a new motor for this battery
system. You could run a 9V motor with lower voltages from a battery, but a
dedicated motor may be more efficient. Overall though, it probably works out
cheaper to constuct a simpler plastic motor unit without the sprung metal wheel
flanges. So it won't pick up from, or power up, any metal track it does run on,
so it could run on the same track along with a 9V train.
Unfortunately, the other pictures that have appeared don't suggest any working
lights. I wonder if this is going to run at 9V and be able to power lights (or
another auxiliary) or not.
What I do think is odd is how the 'sensor' panel on the side rises by about a
plate above the level of the baseplate. I'm curious as to whether you have to
build over a slight rise there. That would probably be more robust than having
to build between the sensor patches though.
The red stripe seems to make a step change in shade near the front, so it may go
from bricks to stickers or paint. There don't appear to be any seams or step
changes in the nose profile. That would fit with the whole front being one big
moulding. It's not the same shape as either the current high speed train or the
new jet though. And it seems to extend further back at the top.
The return of the crocodile front is a nice touch, as is the availability of
green doors. That suggests some canny part placement to interest the AFOLs.
Here's hoping for a carriage kit with wide and narrow TAN windows with CLEAR
glass then...
Still, they look good and I can't wait to see when we can buy them.
Jason Railton
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
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Hi!
Just found on BrickLink
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
If true, it would be really interesting...
Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
Luca
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Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
Tim
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The more and more I see of the RC/IR train line the more I like it. The sets
look to be well-engineered, fun to build, not junior-ized, both have seemingly
good parts and it looks easy to hack. Ok the last part doesn’t really matter to
allot of you but personally I look forward to the new directions this will take
me. I would like to note that I fully intend to offer a RC/IR unit for those who
want the feature without the train base.
As a little side note, It looks as if they made a new motor unit for the trains
with black plastic wheels rather than metal. Lets just hope they kept the rubber
bands on them. ONDREW
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just found on BrickLink
> > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> >
> > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> >
> > If true, it would be really interesting...
> >
> > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > Luca
>
> Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
>
> Tim
Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
<http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Just found on BrickLink
> > > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> > >
> > > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> > >
> > > If true, it would be really interesting...
> > >
> > > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > > Luca
> >
> > Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> > http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
> >
> > Tim
>
> Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
>
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
>
> Tim
I'm afraid (for my pocket) there will be fantastic surprises from new future
train lego sets!!
Matteo
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> Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
>
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
>
> Tim
Hmmm - I wonder if the bridge is for sale too. It looks like specialised bridge
parts - pretty good actually....
I they start making all parts like that for a model railway, then I wonder what
else we can expect - more cars, engines and other accossories?
Personally I see all sets as accessories :-)
Not that I care much about it, but image more tracks... one might then have to
attach metal one self, but in that case I am sure that someone will find a way
Sonnich
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In lugnet.trains, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> > Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
> >
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
> >
> > Tim
>
> Hmmm - I wonder if the bridge is for sale too. It looks like specialised bridge
> parts - pretty good actually....
Yes it is. You get one segment and a truck for construction as a set. I can't
find the pictures again but they appeared on BrickShelf and Eurobricks a while
ago. Perhaps someone else can dig them up.
> I they start making all parts like that for a model railway, then I wonder what
> else we can expect - more cars, engines and other accossories?
> Personally I see all sets as accessories :-)
We can certainly hope.
> Not that I care much about it, but image more tracks... one might then have to
> attach metal one self, but in that case I am sure that someone will find a way
>
> Sonnich
I have considered the modification potential too. I will not try it myself as I
am awful at that sort of thing but I imagine it will make life easier for track
modders as they will no longer have to deal with plastic/metal track and can do
all work on the plastic and add metal at the last stage.
I am very positive about this system, particularly if they continue to sell the
9V motors.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> > Hmmm - I wonder if the bridge is for sale too. It looks like specialised bridge
> > parts - pretty good actually....
>
> Yes it is. You get one segment and a truck for construction as a set. I can't
> find the pictures again but they appeared on BrickShelf and Eurobricks a while
> ago. Perhaps someone else can dig them up.
Here http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/thorserbe/New2006/6.jpg
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> > > Hmmm - I wonder if the bridge is for sale too. It looks like specialised bridge
> > > parts - pretty good actually....
> >
> > Yes it is. You get one segment and a truck for construction as a set. I can't
> > find the pictures again but they appeared on BrickShelf and Eurobricks a while
> > ago. Perhaps someone else can dig them up.
>
>
> Here http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/thorserbe/New2006/6.jpg
>
> Tim
Yes, I've seen it yet too, it's a very good idea for an item, but I don't like
the new big truck line, that can't run in the city roads (see ferrari truck),
and most of all the bridge, that seems to be one piece...I prefer to build the
same piece with techinic elements, that's more funny!
cheers
Matteo
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In lugnet.trains, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
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Not that I care much about it, but image more tracks... one might then have to
attach metal one self, but in that case I am sure that someone will find a way
Sonnich
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Already done, I did some experiments using some of the old 4.5v track.
http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=25776
I ran metal foil tape on top of the platic rails. The tape is tin plated copper
for use in stain glass. The train motor ran fine. And with the new plastic track
I expect the metal will make reasonable contact with 9v track if the foil is
brought to the overlap on the ends. I wouldn’t use it for mainline operation,
but it should be fine for sidings or yards.
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Just found on BrickLink
> > > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> > >
> > > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> > >
> > > If true, it would be really interesting...
> > >
> > > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > > Luca
> >
> > Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> > http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
> >
> > Tim
>
> Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
>
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
>
> Tim
It just keeps getting better
<http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559816>
Tim
PS. Thanks heaps to the people uploading all this. Your work is greatly
appreciated.
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> > > In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Just found on BrickLink
> > > > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> > > >
> > > > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > > > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> > > >
> > > > If true, it would be really interesting...
> > > >
> > > > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > > > Luca
> > >
> > > Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> > > http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
> > >
> > > Tim
> >
> > Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
> >
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
> >
> > Tim
>
> It just keeps getting better
>
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559816>
>
> Tim
>
> PS. Thanks heaps to the people uploading all this. Your work is greatly
> appreciated.
Looking at these pictures leads only to more confusion.....
Notice the standard metal wheels reappear?
Here's to hoping!
-Jeramy
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In lugnet.trains, Jeramy Spurgeon wrote:
<snip>
>
> Looking at these pictures leads only to more confusion.....
>
> Notice the standard metal wheels reappear?
>
> Here's to hoping!
>
> -Jeramy
Well, if I were TLG, I'd use the same train motors--you can power the motor from
the top 2x2 electric plate and just connect that to the battery unit (or
whatever they're using to power the motors)
That way it's fully compatible with the old stuff, and no new motor molds and
such need to be made.
Dave K
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> In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > It just keeps getting better
> >
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559816>
In lugnet.trains, Jeramy Spurgeon wrote:
> Looking at these pictures leads only to more confusion.....
>
> Notice the standard metal wheels reappear?
>
> -Jeramy
Ah, well spotted. So maybe you can't run them on metal track at the same time
as a 9V train. That may mean the base has a standard 9V lead on it though, so
it would let you use it to run a 9V motorised crane or, my favourite, the
miniature piggy-back train!
They seem to have glows added around the lights, so they might work. (Mind you,
there are sparkly bits added on to the ambulance lights in another picture,
which don't work, but I don't think that's quite the same thing). It would be a
nice touch if lights can be controlled independantly, as that would be another
control channel (built-in uncoupler, anyone?).
Jason R
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In lugnet.trains, Jeramy Spurgeon wrote:
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Looking at these pictures leads only to more confusion.....
Notice the standard metal wheels reappear?
Here’s to hoping!
-Jeramy
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I noticed this as well, I’m guessing the old moters were used for testing and
early photos, but the final product will have plastic wheels. I’m really hoping
that the IR reciever is not permanently coupled the the motor unit. Use a
standard 9v train motor, and save the IR outputs for decouplers, lights and
sound control.
I’m also interested in the track, the parts do appear to be nearly identical to
the 9v track, other then the missing slots to crimp the metal on, and of course
the er um color. I’d really hoped LEGO would have adopted the modified style
turnouts. I’m also interested to see if LEGO produces and crossings, or
continues to push the 9v version towards plastic track users.
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Jeramy Spurgeon wrote:
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Looking at these pictures leads only to more confusion.....
Notice the standard metal wheels reappear?
Here’s to hoping!
-Jeramy
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I noticed this as well, I’m guessing the old moters were used for testing and
early photos, but the final product will have plastic wheels. I’m really
hoping that the IR reciever is not permanently coupled the the motor unit.
Use a standard 9v train motor, and save the IR outputs for decouplers, lights
and sound control.
I’m also interested in the track, the parts do appear to be nearly identical
to the 9v track, other then the missing slots to crimp the metal on, and of
course the er um color. I’d really hoped LEGO would have adopted the modified
style turnouts. I’m also interested to see if LEGO produces and crossings, or
continues to push the 9v version towards plastic track users.
Mat
|
I was getting my hopes up looking at the boxcars - in the first pictures they
looked orange, but here they’re clearly red. I guess that makes the car on the
flatbed red too. The red fork-lift looks good; it just seems unusual for Lego
to do all these items in the same colour.
Jason R
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> I noticed this as well, I'm guessing the old moters were used for testing
> and
> early photos, but the final product will have plastic wheels. I'm really
> hoping
> that the IR reciever is not permanently coupled the the motor unit. Use a
> standard 9v train motor, and save the IR outputs for decouplers, lights
> and
> sound control.
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The battery container, the IR receiver, and the baseplate are all one unit.
The motor is a separate unit, same form factor as the current 9v motor but
without the wheels. The wheels are plastic and are attached to the motor
via a Technic axel.
Mike
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Mike Walsh wrote:
> The battery container, the IR receiver, and the baseplate are all one
> unit. The motor is a separate unit, same form factor as the current
> 9v motor but without the wheels. The wheels are plastic and are
> attached to the motor via a Technic axel.
Hmm, does this mean the new motor could drive BBB wheels directly? That
would be way cool for steam designers.
Frank
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In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz wrote:
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Mike Walsh wrote:
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The battery container, the IR receiver, and the baseplate are all one
unit. The motor is a separate unit, same form factor as the current
9v motor but without the wheels. The wheels are plastic and are
attached to the motor via a Technic axel.
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Hmm, does this mean the new motor could drive BBB wheels directly? That
would be way cool for steam designers.
Frank
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Good question. I’m eager to order a set and find out how BBB wheels will do
with the new battery powered trains. I’ve tried BBB wheels with the 845 motor:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/845
Which easily accepts a technic axle. With large BBB drivers, at 9V the speed is
a little slower then the old 4.5v trains and hill climbing power was fairly
poor.
I’m anxious to test the new 9v train motor to see how it works with BBB wheels.
But I’m inclined to believe any decent looking steam engine would need to
position the IR receiver in a car following the engine and run a wire between.
Cheers,
Ben Fleskes
Big Ben Bricks LLC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:27:25 GMT, Ben wrote:
> Good question. I'm eager to order a set and find out how BBB wheels will do
> with the new battery powered trains. I've tried BBB wheels with the 845 motor:
>
> <http://guide.lugnet.com/set/845>
>
> Which easily accepts a technic axle. With large BBB drivers, at 9V the speed
> is
> a little slower then the old 4.5v trains and hill climbing power was fairly
> poor.
>
> I'm anxious to test the new 9v train motor to see how it works with BBB wheels.
> But I'm inclined to believe any decent looking steam engine would need to
> position the IR receiver in a car following the engine and run a wire between.
I wonder if you could use the new IR motor in a steam engine, driving
the drivers, and an old 9V motor in the tender. With a wire between
the two, you could have a double-powerful steam engine, with powered
drivers and standard transformer (non-IR) control... could be very
cool.
This is assuming that the IR receiver is on the battery part, not the
motor, which I think is the case, but maybe not?
-Matt :)
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www.auctionbrick.com - username mchiles
Matt Chiles
1006 Horseshoe Bend Rd
Centerville, WA 98613 USA
Phone: 509-773-5724
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In lugnet.trains, Matthew J. Chiles <mattchiles@gorge.net> wrote:
>
> I wonder if you could use the new IR motor in a steam engine, driving
> the drivers, and an old 9V motor in the tender. With a wire between
> the two, you could have a double-powerful steam engine, with powered
> drivers and standard transformer (non-IR) control... could be very
> cool.
>
> This is assuming that the IR receiver is on the battery part, not the
> motor, which I think is the case, but maybe not?
That would seem to be correct, but you're forgetting that if you put big wheels
on the battery motor, and connect it to a 9V motor with its small wheels,
they'll try to go at different speeds (assuming, as has been suggested, that the
motor innards are the same).
Jason Railton
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Matthew J. Chiles mattchiles@gorge.net wrote:
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I wonder if you could use the new IR motor in a steam engine, driving
the drivers, and an old 9V motor in the tender. With a wire between
the two, you could have a double-powerful steam engine, with powered
drivers and standard transformer (non-IR) control... could be very
cool.
This is assuming that the IR receiver is on the battery part, not the
motor, which I think is the case, but maybe not?
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That would seem to be correct, but you’re forgetting that if you put big
wheels on the battery motor, and connect it to a 9V motor with its small
wheels, they’ll try to go at different speeds (assuming, as has been
suggested, that the motor innards are the same).
Jason Railton
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Yep, I can only dream that the adjusted the gear ratio in the new motors. The
current 9v train motors run way to fast, I’d gladdly trade that for a bit more
torque.
But even at differnt speeds, the BBB wheels have less traction, allowing them to
slip some, and motors tend to to syncronize a bit once they’re under way.
So it might actually be cool, the steam engine’s drive wheels slip as try’s to
start up, then the train starts to move forward, and the wheels grab, off she
goes.
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Yep, I can only dream that the adjusted the gear ratio in the new motors. The
current 9v train motors run way to fast, I’d gladdly trade that for a bit
more torque.
But even at differnt speeds, the BBB wheels have less traction, allowing them
to slip some, and motors tend to to syncronize a bit once they’re under way.
So it might actually be cool, the steam engine’s drive wheels slip as try’s
to start up, then the train starts to move forward, and the wheels grab, off
she goes.
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I think the process you’re describing is referred to as ‘clutching’...
...at straws... ;-)
Jason Railton
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote:
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Yep, I can only dream that the adjusted the gear ratio in the new motors. The
current 9v train motors run way to fast, I’d gladdly trade that for a bit
more torque.
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No idea about the torque, but personally I doubt it could have been improoved
(would empty the batteries too fast). The speed of the new trains is more or
less the same as now: a Metroliner waggon at full speed of the IR train
derailed.
Regards,
Ben
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
> > > In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Just found on BrickLink
> > > > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> > > >
> > > > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > > > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> > > >
> > > > If true, it would be really interesting...
> > > >
> > > > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > > > Luca
> > >
> > > Another pic has turned up on the Eurobricks forum
> > > http://eurobricks.hosting.ipsyn.com/euroforum/index.php?s=1bd80257a3f418521bd7993afe0cd930&act=ST&f=9&t=3239&st=0&#entry57939
> > >
> > > Tim
> >
> > Check out this gallery for more pics of the new freight train:
> >
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=146011>
> >
> > Tim
>
> It just keeps getting better
>
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559816>
>
> Tim
>
> PS. Thanks heaps to the people uploading all this. Your work is greatly
> appreciated.
Ok if you look at the middle car of the ICE train. It has what looks like a
trans black curved roof. I see a large rise in Dome cars in the future. Also
there is a green six wide window on the car with the crane. I guess this calls
for a green Santa Fe style Engine. All in all a good start with the new trains.
Plus its nice to LEGO® is getting back to making sceens for there cataloges.
Dave
www.GPLR.org
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
Agreed, thank you.
Apon further inspection it sure looks like the roof of the ICE train is a
monolithic peice, I believe it’s this part:
http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/45411px2.
And what is the part above the door manifold on the middle car?
I really hope they sell the middle car as a sperate kit, I’d like to have 5 or 6
of these.
Mat
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> Apon further inspection it sure looks like the roof of the ICE train is a
> monolithic peice, I believe it's this part:
> <http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/45411px2>.
> ¬<<http://www.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/45411px2.1076305785.jpg>>
>
> And what is the part above the door manifold on the middle car?
Its the end of the part you mention, just the shadows make it look a bit
odd.
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irc: irc://irc.blitzed.org/
web: http://personal.earlsoft.co.uk
phone: +44 (0)780 8369596
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Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Just found on BrickLink
> http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
>
> Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
>
> If true, it would be really interesting...
>
> Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> Luca
Hmm... I have been luke warm about the IR-controled battery-powered
trains; however, it had occured to me that I could use this system to
run a trolley on the same line as a train, but then I thought of
something. All of my trolleys are single truck trolleys, and I haven't
seen any single truck engines in any of these photos. So, it doesn't
look like this system will be easy to work into a single truck engine,
trolley, etc. Then again, it looks like it wouldn't work anyway if the
IR-controled battery-powered trains are using the standard 9v motors. It
looks like I'm back to luke warm.
Chris
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http://users.rcn.com/cjmasi/lego/
Learn about brittle bone disease
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
> Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just found on BrickLink
> > http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
> >
> > Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
> > http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
> >
> > If true, it would be really interesting...
> >
> > Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
> > Luca
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559813
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559816
cheers
Matteo
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>
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559813
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1559816
>
>
> cheers
> Matteo
more about new trains
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=161671
matteo
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Box shots this time
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=165797
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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Box shots this time
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=165797
Tim
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Take a look at the shot of the 7898 cargo train:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1601691
There’s what appears to be a red hopper car on the right side of the box and a
flat bed behind the engine that weren’t seen on the calender pics. The crane
car is also picking up a red car that i don’t recall seeing before. Pardon my
ignorance if these have already have been discussed, it’s my first time seeing
them.
Kyle Henneberque
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In lugnet.trains, Kyle Henneberque wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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Box shots this time
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=165797
Tim
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Take a look at the shot of the 7898 cargo train:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1601691
There’s what appears to be a red hopper car on the right side of the box and
a flat bed behind the engine that weren’t seen on the calender pics. The
crane car is also picking up a red car that i don’t recall seeing before.
Pardon my ignorance if these have already have been discussed, it’s my first
time seeing them.
Kyle Henneberque
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i hadn’t seen the the red hopper car or car before either, however the more
and more i see of these trains the more i like them. lets just hope they don’t
screw it up with rediculus prices. ondrew
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In lugnet.trains, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Kyle Henneberque wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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Box shots this time
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=165797
Tim
|
Take a look at the shot of the 7898 cargo train:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1601691
There’s what appears to be a red hopper car on the right side of the box and
a flat bed behind the engine that weren’t seen on the calender pics. The
crane car is also picking up a red car that i don’t recall seeing before.
Pardon my ignorance if these have already have been discussed, it’s my first
time seeing them
Kyle Henneberque
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i hadn’t seen the the red hopper car or car before either, however the more
and more i see of these trains the more i like them. lets just hope they
don’t screw it up with rediculus prices. ondrew
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I’m liking the set design too, but I’m not certain about the inclusion of two
left hand points/turnouts !
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Kyle Henneberque wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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Box shots this time
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=165797
Tim
|
Take a look at the shot of the 7898 cargo train:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1601691
There’s what appears to be a red hopper car on the right side of the box
and a flat bed behind the engine that weren’t seen on the calender pics.
The crane car is also picking up a red car that i don’t recall seeing
before. Pardon my ignorance if these have already have been discussed, it’s
my first time seeing them
Kyle Henneberque
|
i hadn’t seen the the red hopper car or car before either, however the more
and more i see of these trains the more i like them. lets just hope they
don’t screw it up with rediculus prices. ondrew
|
I’m liking the set design too, but I’m not certain about the inclusion of two
left hand points/turnouts !
|
well hopefully that was just a mistake by the graphic artist. anything is
possible though.
ondrew
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
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I’m liking the set design too, but I’m not certain about the inclusion of two
left hand points/turnouts !
|
I’m thinking that’s a mistake - if you look closely it says 20x curve and 8x
straight, and 1x for each of the points. I would think it would just say 2x and
have 1 pic if they were the same. Can’t think what the 2 extra curves might be
for though.
ROSCO
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> I'm thinking that's a mistake - if you look closely it says 20x curve and 8x
> straight, and 1x for each of the points. I would think it would just say 2x and
> have 1 pic if they were the same. Can't think what the 2 extra curves might be
> for though.
the 2 extra curves would be the normal curves that go with points (a normal
packet of points contains 1 x left, 1 x right and 2 x curves)
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In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> > I'm thinking that's a mistake - if you look closely it says 20x curve and 8x
> > straight, and 1x for each of the points. I would think it would just say 2x and
> > have 1 pic if they were the same. Can't think what the 2 extra curves might be
> > for though.
> the 2 extra curves would be the normal curves that go with points (a normal
> packet of points contains 1 x left, 1 x right and 2 x curves)
That only makes eighteen. I believe Rosco is referring to the other two to make
twenty.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> > > I'm thinking that's a mistake - if you look closely it says 20x curve and 8x
> > > straight, and 1x for each of the points. I would think it would just say 2x and
> > > have 1 pic if they were the same. Can't think what the 2 extra curves might be
> > > for though.
> > the 2 extra curves would be the normal curves that go with points (a normal
> > packet of points contains 1 x left, 1 x right and 2 x curves)
>
> That only makes eighteen. I believe Rosco is referring to the other two to make
> twenty.
>
> Tim
The new points set also contains 4 curves as opposed to the 2 in the 9V set.
(The points set also has the same 2 x left hand photo error)
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
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Hi!
Just found on BrickLink
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
If true, it would be really interesting...
Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
Luca
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here’s some new pics forund on brickshelf. they answer alot of questions.
the remote looks prommising with the studs all over it but the train bases have
that huge blob of a battery box on top. that’s got to go. ondrew
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In lugnet.trains, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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here’s some new pics forund on brickshelf. they answer alot of questions.
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Does that remote remind anyone else of the shuttle craft from “V”?
Steve
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In lugnet.parts, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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the remote looks prommising with the studs all over it but the train bases
have that huge blob of a battery box on top. that’s got to go. ondrew
|
Did you notice from the above picture and the following:
http://www.legomarkabolt.hu/adat/index-2006uj.html
that we may be stuck with a LOT more curved track than we may need /want?
Let’s hope that it’s just a “starter” pack and that they will also be sold
individually.
-Jeramy
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In lugnet.trains, Jeramy Spurgeon wrote:
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In lugnet.parts, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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the remote looks prommising with the studs all over it but the train bases
have that huge blob of a battery box on top. that’s got to go. ondrew
|
Did you notice from the above picture and the following:
http://www.legomarkabolt.hu/adat/index-2006uj.html
that we may be stuck with a LOT more curved track than we may need /want?
Let’s hope that it’s just a “starter” pack and that they will also be sold
individually.
-Jeramy
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Yea, it’s real nice that we’ll get twice as much track as before in a box, Even
if itall plastic. But it sucks that it’s a 50/50 mix of straight and curved
rail. 
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Yea, it’s real nice that we’ll get twice as much track as before in a box,
Even if itall plastic. But it sucks that it’s a 50/50 mix of straight and
curved rail.
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To be fair all round, how many AFOLs will be buying plastic track expansion
packs anyway? Jake said they’d keep making the metal track for hobby layouts.
This pack is for the younger kids targeted by the battery trains, not train
clubs who want mile-long straight runs. I think we need only be concerned if
metal track on shop-At-Home gets repackaged like this.
My concern is how well the new sets can sell. I’m sure there’s demand, but for
a system that’s cheaper to produce, why stuff in so much content as to push the
price point right back up again?
Jason R
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Yea, it’s real nice that we’ll get twice as much track as before in a box,
Even if itall plastic. But it sucks that it’s a 50/50 mix of straight and
curved rail.
|
To be fair all round, how many AFOLs will be buying plastic track expansion
packs anyway? Jake said they’d keep making the metal track for hobby
layouts. This pack is for the younger kids targeted by the battery trains,
not train clubs who want mile-long straight runs. I think we need only be
concerned if metal track on shop-At-Home gets repackaged like this.
My concern is how well the new sets can sell. I’m sure there’s demand, but
for a system that’s cheaper to produce, why stuff in so much content as to
push the price point right back up again?
Jason R
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The only benefit I could see is you can use this stuff for the sidings or static
displays. That way you dont waist the good stuff for trains that will just sit
there.
David
www.GPLR.org
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In lugnet.trains, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
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Hi!
Just found on BrickLink
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=7898-1
Are we going to have a green Train Front like the ones from 4551?
http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2924
If true, it would be really interesting...
Bye (and merry Christmas) :-)
Luca
|
here’s some new pics found on brickshelf. they answer alot of questions.
the remote looks promising with the studs all over it but the train bases
have that huge blob of a battery box on top. that’s got to go. ondrew
|
There a couple of other things I have noticed from these pics. The new Technic
axled wheels appear to have a spoke pattern in relief on them, not proper spokes
like the small BBB wheels (visible in the closup).
The 1x1 slopes will be
available in blue on the truck (I’ve been waiting for them!)
I have to say I
don’t really understand why the battery box/receiver is so big
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
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here’s some new pics forund on brickshelf. they answer alot of questions.
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looking at this, it looks good - comes with 4 cars :-)
But, there is no glass in the green windshield in the crane car?
I really hope there is.
Otherwise I like it, good cars etc, even that @37000 Ft it is pretty expensive.
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the remote looks promising with the studs all over it but the train bases
have that huge blob of a battery box on top. that’s got to go. ondrew
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First thing I noticed. Yep - that doesnt look good an limits building (mostly
for americans).
BR
Sonnich
http://my.tele2.ee/sonnich/lego/
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