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For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

As a first approximation, I checked in the newsgroups for the first mention
(i.e., the earliest reference) to each name.  This pegs the order of formation
pretty solidly, I think, and in some cases pegs the official formation dates
fairly closely, but for a couple of the more established groups (PNLTC for
example), the dates are probably off significantly.

Date format is yyyy/mm/dd:

1998-09-29  PNLTC: Pacific Northwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1998-11-14  NGLTC: North Georgia LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1999-02-08  BayLUG: Bay Area LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-03-05  GMLTC: Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1999-05-12  De Bouwsteen (Netherlands)
1999-07-16  NELUG: New England LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-07-16  NOVALTC: Northern Virginia LEGO Train Club - now WAMALTC (U.S.A.)
1999-07-19  VicLUG: Victoria LEGO Users Group (Canada)
1999-09-03  GMLUG: Greater Midwest LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-09-04  TexLUG: Texas LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-09-30  WAFOL: Wasatch Area Fans Of LEGO (U.S.A.)
1999-10-06  GFLTC: Greater Florida LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1999-10-31  LEGO-MUG: LEGO MINDSTORMS Users Group (Japan)
1999-11-15  WAMALUG: Washington (D.C.) Metro Area LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-11-16  ITLUG: Italian LEGO Users Group (Italy)
1999-11-24  DixieLUG: Dixie LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-11-28  UKLUG: United Kingdom LEGO Users Group (U.K.)
1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)
1999-12-09  FGLTC: First German LEGO Train Club (Germany)
2000-01-12  CMLUG: Central Midwest LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
2000-01-21  NCLUG: North Carolina LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)
2000-02-18  LUGOLA: LEGO Users Group of Los Angeles (U.S.A.)
2000-02-22  VLC: Vancouver LEGO Club (Canada)
2000-03-17  NALUG: Northern Alberta LEGO Users Group (Canada)
2000-04-30  EJLTC: East Japan LEGO Train Club (Japan)
2000-05-20  rtlToronto (Canada)
2000-05-28  SeaLUG: Seattle Area LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
2000-07-07  GardenSLUG: Garden State LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)


I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

TIA for any info you can provide!

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:02:49AM +0000, Tood Lehman wrote:
Date format is yyyy/mm/dd:

1999-07-16  NOVALTC: Northern Virginia LEGO Train Club - now WAMALTC (U.S.A.)
1999-11-15  WAMALUG: Washington (D.C.) Metro Area LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)

well, not quite.  NOVALTC changed it's name in nov '99 to WAMALUG.  WAMALTC
was created June, 21, 2000...

:)

--
Dan Boger / dan@peeron.com / www.peeron.com / ICQ: 1130750
<set:6876_1>:  Alienator (LEGO/SYSTEM/Space/Blacktron I), '88, 82 pcs, 1 figs

    
          
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Dan Boger writes:
well, not quite.  NOVALTC changed it's name in nov '99 to WAMALUG.  WAMALTC
was created June, 21, 2000...

OK, thanks!  Updated:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

When was WAMALUG officially formed then?  I've got November 15, 1999 as the
earliest seen mention of the name.

How close is July 16, 1999 to the official formation date of NOVALTC?

Thanks,
--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

De Bouwsteen (Netherlands) was officialy founded at 1994-11-27

Greetings, M. Moolhuysen

    
          
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Manfred Moolhuysen writes:
De Bouwsteen (Netherlands) was officialy founded at 1994-11-27

Wow!  OK, great!  Updated:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

1999-03-05  GMLTC: Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)

What date are you looking for here?

If you're looking for the date the 'club' started displaying LEGO trains at
shows, it would be sometime in the mid 1980s.  When most of the group started
getting together?  1993.  When we started having any sort of 'web' presence?
Maybe 1998, or maybe your 1999/03/05 date...

The GMLTC has been called 'the most informal club' because we don't have dues,
or a charter, or even a roster.  We just get together and build.  We're not big
into self promotion, we prefer to let our layout impress people.

Of course our layout is currently being taken apart, so it's only impressive
when you see four or five 32quart containers filled with one color of 2x4
bricks.  Yea, we have a lot of bricks to play with!  And lots of plans for the
next layout...  <grin>

JohnG, GMLTC

    
          
     
Subject: 
When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation)
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In lugnet.org, John Gerlach writes:
In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
1999-03-05  GMLTC: Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)

What date are you looking for here?

If you're looking for the date the 'club' started displaying LEGO trains at
shows, it would be sometime in the mid 1980s.  When most of the group
started getting together?  1993.

Would anyone happen to know an exact date for either of those?


When we started having any sort of 'web'
presence?  Maybe 1998, or maybe your 1999/03/05 date...

The GMLTC has been called 'the most informal club' because we don't have
dues, or a charter, or even a roster.  We just get together and build.
We're not big into self promotion, we prefer to let our layout impress
people.

I guess what I'm looking for is the exact date on which GMLTC started calling
itself GMLTC (i.e., that it became that entity, however informally) and also,
if known, the date on which people in the Twin Cities (those who initially
founded GMLTC) started congregating and saying, "Hey, we should make a thing
of this."

Sounds like the history of GMLTC would make a very interesting book.  :-)

--Todd

    
          
      
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Re: When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation)
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:

I guess what I'm looking for is the exact date on which GMLTC started calling
itself GMLTC (i.e., that it became that entity, however informally) and also,
if known, the date on which people in the Twin Cities (those who initially
founded GMLTC) started congregating and saying, "Hey, we should make a thing
of this."

Why exactly? (both senses...) That is, exactly why do you need to know this,
and why does it have to be exact? Would the year be good enough? GMLTC started
from one guy and his uncle who loved LEGO and grew from there. It's the
granddaddy of all LEGO train clubs, leave it at that. Not dissing PNLTC, they
were a clear second historically, and more organised sooner, but they are two
different beasts.

Like John G. said, most GMLTCers could care less (but not very much less)
about promotion, names, club structure, details, they just want to build. The
notable exceptions are John 8wide Neal and myself. We do it mostly for fun,
and I'm only an adjunct member, haven't been to a building session in almost a
year now. <sigh> It was in part 8wide that caused the club even to have a name
and a logo in the first place. That happend well before there was any
statements of club existance on RTL or LUGNET.

My 1.3 pence. (in the lounge at DTW awaiting my LGW flight to be called so
I'll think in Sterling, ok?)

++Lar

     
           
       
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Re: When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation)
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In lugnet.org, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Why exactly? (both senses...) That is, exactly why do you need to know this,
and why does it have to be exact?

I doesn't have to be exact if there isn't an exact date.  I think in most
cases there are exact dates...it's just that I'd prefer to know exact dates
if at all possible.  If not, that's OK too.

--Todd

     
           
      
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Re: When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation)
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I don't think I've ever more agreed with Larry  <grin>

October 1992 or 1994 was when John G and I started to build with Conan and
Chuck.  John G a little sooner than I, it was right about the time that Conan
came to work at the Lego Imagination Center and we met them.  Since Conan
lived in a house with a few other guys, the gathering was informal, but
frequent.

(Year date is different because I don't remember if I was already married or
not.  Oct 93 was in CT as a model builder, cuz that was the year I got
married.)

-John
emails should go to jkelly3@yahoo.com, the other email is just a refuge for
spam, I never check it.



In lugnet.org, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:

I guess what I'm looking for is the exact date on which GMLTC started calling
itself GMLTC (i.e., that it became that entity, however informally) and also,
if known, the date on which people in the Twin Cities (those who initially
founded GMLTC) started congregating and saying, "Hey, we should make a thing
of this."

Why exactly? (both senses...) That is, exactly why do you need to know this,
and why does it have to be exact? Would the year be good enough? GMLTC started
from one guy and his uncle who loved LEGO and grew from there. It's the
granddaddy of all LEGO train clubs, leave it at that. Not dissing PNLTC, they
were a clear second historically, and more organised sooner, but they are two
different beasts.

Like John G. said, most GMLTCers could care less (but not very much less)
about promotion, names, club structure, details, they just want to build. The
notable exceptions are John 8wide Neal and myself. We do it mostly for fun,
and I'm only an adjunct member, haven't been to a building session in almost a
year now. <sigh> It was in part 8wide that caused the club even to have a name
and a logo in the first place. That happend well before there was any
statements of club existance on RTL or LUGNET.

My 1.3 pence. (in the lounge at DTW awaiting my LGW flight to be called so
I'll think in Sterling, ok?)

++Lar

    
          
     
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Re: When was GMLTC started?
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In lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
In lugnet.org, John Gerlach writes:

If you're looking for the date the 'club' started displaying LEGO trains at
shows, it would be sometime in the mid 1980s.  When most of the group
started getting together?  1993.

Would anyone happen to know an exact date for either of those?

1985 was the first year a layout was taken to a show.  The other date is
much more fluid.  (I wasn't around for either; this is based on Conan's
comments today while we were trashing the old layout.)

I guess what I'm looking for is the exact date on which GMLTC started calling
itself GMLTC

That is probably much closer to your 3/5/1999 date - I think John Neal gets
the credit for actually giving the club a name.

Steve
--
Barb & Steve Demlow  |  demlow@visi.com  |  www.visi.com/~demlow/

    
          
     
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Re: When was GMLTC started?
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Steve Demlow wrote:

In lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
In lugnet.org, John Gerlach writes:

If you're looking for the date the 'club' started displaying LEGO trains at
shows, it would be sometime in the mid 1980s.  When most of the group
started getting together?  1993.

Would anyone happen to know an exact date for either of those?

1985 was the first year a layout was taken to a show.  The other date is
much more fluid.  (I wasn't around for either; this is based on Conan's
comments today while we were trashing the old layout.)

I guess what I'm looking for is the exact date on which GMLTC started calling
itself GMLTC

As for an exact date, I'd use the date J-1 registered gmltc.org.

That is probably much closer to your 3/5/1999 date - I think John Neal gets
the credit for actually giving the club a name.

Nope.  Can't take it.  I had originally thought about the name "Upper Midwest LEGO
Train Club".  J-1 had thought about "Greater Minnesota LEGO Train Club", and even
registered gmltc.org.  There was a bit of disagreement, but then J-3 suggested
"Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club", and we could still use the domain name.  So if
anyone gets credit, it would be John Kelly.  The rest, as they say, is history.

-John (J-2)



Steve
--
Barb & Steve Demlow  |  demlow@visi.com  |  www.visi.com/~demlow/

   
         
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

As a first approximation, I checked in the newsgroups for the first mention
(i.e., the earliest reference) to each name.  This pegs the order of formation
pretty solidly, I think, and in some cases pegs the official formation dates
fairly closely, but for a couple of the more established groups (PNLTC for
example), the dates are probably off significantly.

Date format is yyyy/mm/dd:

2000-03-17  NALUG: Northern Alberta LEGO Users Group (Canada)

I think NALUG "technically" started about a week before this date, but the date
can/should stand as is - the official announcement on Lugnet being about the
best indicator. :)


James

    
          
     
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In lugnet.org, James Brown writes:
2000-03-17  NALUG: Northern Alberta LEGO Users Group (Canada)

I think NALUG "technically" started about a week before this date, but the
date can/should stand as is - the official announcement on Lugnet being
about the best indicator. :)

Okie dokie, and you were the one who made the announcement,

   http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=523

so I'll take that as gold.  Updated list with "?" removed:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

--Todd

   
         
     
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
1998-11-14  NGLTC: North Georgia LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)


11.14.1998 works for me, I believe that was the date of the first public
presentation of the NGLTC layout back when it was the membership of one. But
it did soon grow to two members by the end of the show.

Before that it was just a layout in my garage with no official name.

jt

   
         
     
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You guessed it right, November 16th 1999 is the date ITLUG was born.

Ciao
Mario

"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:G21KKp.JDs@lugnet.com...
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts • and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of • each
group/club.

As a first approximation, I checked in the newsgroups for the first • mention
(i.e., the earliest reference) to each name.  This pegs the order of • formation
pretty solidly, I think, and in some cases pegs the official formation • dates
fairly closely, but for a couple of the more established groups (PNLTC for
example), the dates are probably off significantly.

Date format is yyyy/mm/dd:

1998-09-29  PNLTC: Pacific Northwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1998-11-14  NGLTC: North Georgia LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1999-02-08  BayLUG: Bay Area LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-03-05  GMLTC: Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1999-05-12  De Bouwsteen (Netherlands)
1999-07-16  NELUG: New England LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-07-16  NOVALTC: Northern Virginia LEGO Train Club - now WAMALTC • (U.S.A.)
1999-07-19  VicLUG: Victoria LEGO Users Group (Canada)
1999-09-03  GMLUG: Greater Midwest LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-09-04  TexLUG: Texas LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-09-30  WAFOL: Wasatch Area Fans Of LEGO (U.S.A.)
1999-10-06  GFLTC: Greater Florida LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
1999-10-31  LEGO-MUG: LEGO MINDSTORMS Users Group (Japan)
1999-11-15  WAMALUG: Washington (D.C.) Metro Area LEGO Users Group • (U.S.A.)
1999-11-16  ITLUG: Italian LEGO Users Group (Italy)
1999-11-24  DixieLUG: Dixie LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
1999-11-28  UKLUG: United Kingdom LEGO Users Group (U.K.)
1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)
1999-12-09  FGLTC: First German LEGO Train Club (Germany)
2000-01-12  CMLUG: Central Midwest LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
2000-01-21  NCLUG: North Carolina LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)
2000-02-18  LUGOLA: LEGO Users Group of Los Angeles (U.S.A.)
2000-02-22  VLC: Vancouver LEGO Club (Canada)
2000-03-17  NALUG: Northern Alberta LEGO Users Group (Canada)
2000-04-30  EJLTC: East Japan LEGO Train Club (Japan)
2000-05-20  rtlToronto (Canada)
2000-05-28  SeaLUG: Seattle Area LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)
2000-07-07  GardenSLUG: Garden State LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)


I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it • as
info comes in:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

TIA for any info you can provide!

--Todd

   
         
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

As a first approximation, I checked in the newsgroups for the first mention
(i.e., the earliest reference) to each name.  This pegs the order of formation
pretty solidly, I think, and in some cases pegs the official formation dates
fairly closely, but for a couple of the more established groups (PNLTC for
example), the dates are probably off significantly.

Date format is yyyy/mm/dd:

<snip>
1999-07-16  NELUG: New England LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)

While 1999-07-16 is the first mention of the name NELUG I think we have decided
that 1999-08-10 is probably more appropriate for an anniversary date as that
was the date of our first meeting (Ideas coming together).

See here.

http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/nelug/?n=349

You are correct with the first mention of the name though so if thats what you
want to go with please feel free.

<snip>


I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:

  http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

TIA for any info you can provide!

Looks good.


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/

    
          
     
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Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation
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In lugnet.org, Eric Kingsley writes:
<snip>
1999-07-16  NELUG: New England LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)

While 1999-07-16 is the first mention of the name NELUG I think we have
decided that 1999-08-10 is probably more appropriate for an anniversary
date as that was the date of our first meeting (Ideas coming together).
See here.
http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/nelug/?n=349

Ah yes -- splendid!

You are correct with the first mention of the name though so if thats what
you want to go with please feel free.

If at all possible, I wanna list what each group feels/defines is its official
birthdate.  Date of first mention is a reasonable approximator, but just that.
:-)

Here's the updated table:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

--Todd

    
          
     
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.org, Eric Kingsley writes:
<snip>
1999-07-16  NELUG: New England LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)

While 1999-07-16 is the first mention of the name NELUG I think we have
decided that 1999-08-10 is probably more appropriate for an anniversary
date as that was the date of our first meeting (Ideas coming together).
See here.
http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/nelug/?n=349

Ah yes -- splendid!

You are correct with the first mention of the name though so if thats what
you want to go with please feel free.

If at all possible, I wanna list what each group feels/defines is its official
birthdate.  Date of first mention is a reasonable approximator, but just that.
:-)

Here's the updated table:

  http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

--Todd

In the spirit of approximating, I offer the following corrections...


Date
     Group/Club Name


1985
     CWC-CW LEGO Railroad - now GMLTC
"later grew into GMLTC" rather than "now GMLTC"


(?) 1998-09-29
     PNLTC: Pacific Northwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)

I don't know the formation date for sure but I am pretty certain that PNLTC
was around when I first started hacking around with LEGO again in late 1997.

Their website has pictures from a show they did in October 1997.

http://www.pnltc.org/Gal_GATS_PDX97.html

and what I tend to think of the "core three", Dan P, Steve B and Ben F, all
were part of the action, with structures built for the show. So they were
around at LEAST that far back, probably farther. IIRC the name and an older no
longer used (double arrow) logo were in existance at the time I first found
them and linked my website to them in december 1997. I still have that logo in
my links, guess I ought to switch.

1999-01-28
     GMLTC: Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
I'd change this to something like "the minnesota gang gets prodded into
picking a name" or similar to reflect the informality, because the way it
reads now, it implies this is the formation date. It's not. It's more of a
formalization date than a formation date.

++Lar

    
          
     
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In lugnet.org, Larry Pieniazek writes:
1985
     CWC-CW LEGO Railroad - now GMLTC
"later grew into GMLTC" rather than "now GMLTC"

okie dokie


(?) 1998-09-29
     PNLTC: Pacific Northwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)

I don't know the formation date for sure but I am pretty certain that PNLTC
was around when I first started hacking around with LEGO again in late 1997.

Their website has pictures from a show they did in October 1997.

http://www.pnltc.org/Gal_GATS_PDX97.html

OK, I changed the date there to say "(?) 1997-10?" for now.

1999-01-28
     GMLTC: Greater Midwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.)
I'd change this to something like "the minnesota gang gets prodded into
picking a name" or similar to reflect the informality, because the way it
reads now, it implies this is the formation date. It's not. It's more of a
formalization date than a formation date.

Hmm.

--Todd

    
          
     
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PNLTC 'organized' or, rather, met under the name in June 1997 so that
applications could be submitted for the Sept. and Oct. GATS venues.  We also
started building tables at that time.  Initial activity and pics were
graciously posted by Ben on his personal website.

Our first meeting was at Ben's place in Portland on a hot August Saturday.
Steve, Ben and I setup a small layout to test the dropped Kid's RailRoad (name
later adopted from Will Chapman) and a few special modules.  Originally 3
members now almost 30.  :)

thx for your efforts to compile this, Todd.

dan parker "temp historian by default"
PNLTC

   
         
     
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Todd Lehman wrote:

I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

As a first approximation, I checked in the newsgroups for the first mention
(i.e., the earliest reference) to each name.  This pegs the order of formation
pretty solidly, I think, and in some cases pegs the official formation dates
fairly closely, but for a couple of the more established groups (PNLTC for
example), the dates are probably off significantly.

Date format is yyyy/mm/dd:

2000-01-21  NCLUG: North Carolina LEGO Users Group (U.S.A.)

This could be backed up to 2000-01-15, I have an e-mail from Mike Walsh
dated then where he reports securing www.nclug.net. Our discussion about
forming the group however extends back to 1999-08-06 or thereabouts,
here is a pointer to the first formal announcement on Lugnet of the
intent to form a group (it may even be worth having 2 dates in the
listing, but then maybe it doesn't really matter):

http://news.lugnet.com/loc/us/nc/?n=25

What is clear is that a huge wave of organizing started in the 2nd half
of 1999, and NCLUG is definitely part of that wave.

Frank

   
         
     
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In lugnet.org.it, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:
[...]
I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:
   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates
TIA for any info you can provide!

Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

--Todd


1. 1985  CWC-CW LEGO Railroad - later grew into GMLTC

2. 1994-11-27  De Bouwsteen (Netherlands)

3. 1997-07-24  rtlToronto (Canada)

4. (?) 1997-10?  PNLTC: _P_acific _N_orthwest _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub
    (U.S.A.)

5. 1998-09-10  BayLUG: _Bay_ Area _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

6. 1998-11-14  NGLTC: _N_orth _G_eorgia _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (U.S.A.)

1. 1999-01-28  GMLTC: _G_reater _M_idwest _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (U.S.A.) -
    formerly CWC-CW LEGO Railroad

7. (?) 1999-07-16  NOVALTC: _No_rthern _V_irgini_a_ _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub -
    now WAMALUG (U.S.A.)

8. 1999-08-10  NELUG: _N_ew _E_ngland _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

9. (?) 1999-02-28  VicLUG: _Vic_toria _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Canada)

10. (?) 1999-09-03  GMLUG: _G_reater _M_idwest _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)

11. (?) 1999-09-04  TexLUG: _Tex_as _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

12. (?) 1999-09-30  WAFOL: _W_asatch _A_rea _F_ans _o_f _L_EGO (U.S.A.)

13. (?) 1999-10-06  GFLTC: _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub
    (U.S.A.)

14. (?) 1999-10-31  LEGO-MUG: _LEGO_ _M_INDSTORMS _U_sers _G_roup (Japan)

7. (?) 1999-11-15  WAMALUG: _Wa_shington (D.C.) _M_etro _A_rea _L_EGO
    _U_sers _G_roup - formerly NOVALTC (U.S.A.)

15. (?) 1999-11-16  ITLUG: _It_alian _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Italy)

16. (?) 1999-11-24  DixieLUG: _Dixie_ _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

17. (?) 1999-11-28  UKLUG: _U_nited _K_ingdom _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.K.)

18. (?) 1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)

19. 1999-12-09  FGLTC: _F_irst _G_erman _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (Germany)

20. (?) 2000-01-12  CMLUG: _C_entral _M_idwest _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)

21. (?) 2000-01-15  NCLUG: _N_orth _C_arolina _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)

22. (?) 2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)

23. (?) 2000-02-18  LUGOLA: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup _o_f _L_os _A_ngeles
    (U.S.A.)

24. (?) 2000-02-22  VLC: _V_ancouver _L_EGO _C_lub (Canada)

25. 2000-03-12  BayLTC: _Bay_ Area _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (U.S.A.)

26. 2000-03-17  NALUG: _N_orthern _A_lberta _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Canada)

27. (?) 2000-04-30  EJLTC: _E_ast _J_apan _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (Japan)

28. (?) 2000-05-28  SeaLUG: _Se_attle _A_rea _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

29. (?) 2000-07-07  GardenSLUG: _Garden_ _S_tate _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)

30. 2000-07-21  WAMALTC: _Wa_shington (D.C.) _M_etro _A_rea _L_EGO _T_rain
    _C_lub (U.S.A.)

31. (?) 2000-09-04  GBLTC: _G_reater _B_rianza _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (Italy)

32. 2000-10-21  MichLUG: _Mich_igan _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

33. 2000-11-13  MonLUG: _Mon_treal _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Canada)

34. 2000-12-12  SMART: _S_eattle _M_indstorms _a_nd _R_obotic _T_echies
    (U.S.A.)

35. 2000-01-14  RichLUG: _Rich_mond _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

36. (?) 2000-02-07  LUGCO: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup of _C_entral _O_klahoma
    (U.S.A.)

37. (?) 2000-03-02  GFLUG:  _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)

[end]

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post • and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

15. (?) 1999-11-16  ITLUG: _It_alian _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Italy)

Hi Todd,

the thread where we voted our current name started on 1999-11-16  and ended
1999-11-17.
I think that 1999-11-16  is OK.

Ciao
Mario

    
          
      
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Todd Lehman (<3aa29f04.91709731@lugnet.com>) wrote
at 20:18:59

17. (?) 1999-11-28  UKLUG: _U_nited _K_ingdom _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.K.)


At this point, I'm inclined to say that there is no such thing as UKLUG,
beyond the web site put together by Simon Denscombe.

There is no evidence of any organisation, no officials, no constitution,
no T-shirts, no nothing.

I had hoped to get some sort of discussion going at yesterday's
gathering, but there were too many other distractions :-)

If anybody else thinks that we really should get something tangible off
the ground, please make yourselves known by responding to this post.

On the other hand, if you think that the way things are at the moment,
with a loose affiliation based around lugnet.loc.uk, is all we need,
please stand up and say that as well.

I'm definitely of the opinion that we need an events manager, though
;-)
--
Tony Priestman

    
          
      
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

--Todd

18. (?) 1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)

22. (?) 2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)

Should we confirm these dates, note that Studs is STUDS, and ask for BUGS to
be added (as of 2000-11-26 cf http://news.lugnet.com/org/au/?n=1196)?

--Dave

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org.au, Dave Low writes:
In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

--Todd

18. (?) 1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)

22. (?) 2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)

Should we confirm these dates, note that Studs is STUDS, and ask for BUGS to
be added (as of 2000-11-26 cf http://news.lugnet.com/org/au/?n=1196)?

I thought it was 'Studs' or 'studs', since it is not an acronym.
What about the MUGS and HUGS ?

pete.w (usually not this pedantic)

     
           
      
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I thought you were SLUGS, and the fests were StudFests.

And I don't know if there's any "official" inception date for MUG, but I
guess we could say 2001-01-26 as when we voted in our spokesman? MUGs wanna
comment?

ROSCO

Peter White <aztekium@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:G9p74r.6qp@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.org.au, Dave Low writes:
In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post • and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

--Todd

18. (?) 1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)

22. (?) 2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)

Should we confirm these dates, note that Studs is STUDS, and ask for BUGS • to
be added (as of 2000-11-26 cf http://news.lugnet.com/org/au/?n=1196)?

I thought it was 'Studs' or 'studs', since it is not an acronym.
What about the MUGS and HUGS ?

pete.w (usually not this pedantic)

     
           
       
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In lugnet.org.au, Ross Crawford writes:
I thought you were SLUGS, and the fests were StudFests.

And I don't know if there's any "official" inception date for MUG, but I
guess we could say 2001-01-26 as when we voted in our spokesman? MUGs wanna
comment?

I'm definitely a SLUG, the others may be studs as well.

      
            
       
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In lugnet.org.au, Peter White writes:
I thought you were SLUGS, and the fests were StudFests.


I'm definitely a SLUG, the others may be studs as well.

In my little mind I'm a member of STUDS (capitalised, isn't an acronym, just
funny in a non-PC non-genderspecific in-joke kind of way) which is the Sydney
regional Lego Users Group (SLUG/SydLUG). Our bi-monthly gatherings are variously
STUDSfests (because they're our fests and we're members of STUDS) or Studfests
(because the bricks we play with have studs on them) -- I prefer STUDSfests.
SLUGS is a vaguely derogatory/self-deprecating term (depending on who says it)
that refers to the members of STUDS.

--Dave

      
            
       
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SLUGS is a vaguely derogatory/self-deprecating term (depending on who says • it)
that refers to the members of STUDS.

Yes, a SLUGfest sounds like either:

1. a night at a French restaurant eating snails
2. an event of the World Wrestling Federation

It's up to you Sydneysiders, but does the self-image of being an eater of
molluscs or having the same IQ as a mollusc seem that appealing?

Be a man, not a mollusc, I say!

Kerry

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org.au, Ross Crawford writes:
I thought you were SLUGS, and the fests were StudFests.

And I don't know if there's any "official" inception date for MUG, but I
guess we could say 2001-01-26 as when we voted in our spokesman? MUGs wanna
comment?

I think the first real meeting was mid 1999, Ben would know for sure, so I
would say that is the date.

Did we have the inaugural MLTC (VLTC) meeting yesterday?

Martin (S)

     
           
      
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Martin Scragg <martin.scragg@s1.com.au> wrote in message
news:G9pLEr.DAC@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.org.au, Ross Crawford writes:
I thought you were SLUGS, and the fests were StudFests.

And I don't know if there's any "official" inception date for MUG, but I
guess we could say 2001-01-26 as when we voted in our spokesman? MUGs • wanna
comment?

I think the first real meeting was mid 1999, Ben would know for sure, so I
would say that is the date.

Probably. I just wasn't sure when MUG was first uttered in this context...

Did we have the inaugural MLTC (VLTC) meeting yesterday?

Reckon so. And I just uploaded the track design to brickshelf, complete with
dead-end and suicide-loop! I'll do a write-up soon. (Got those pics Sue
Ann?)

Regards,

ROSCO

    
          
      
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MichLTC or MLTC any way is fine but it was created on January 12th 2001


In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.org.it, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:
[...]
I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:
   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates
TIA for any info you can provide!

Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

--Todd


1. 1985  CWC-CW LEGO Railroad - later grew into GMLTC

2. 1994-11-27  De Bouwsteen (Netherlands)

3. 1997-07-24  rtlToronto (Canada)

4. (?) 1997-10?  PNLTC: _P_acific _N_orthwest _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub
   (U.S.A.)

5. 1998-09-10  BayLUG: _Bay_ Area _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

6. 1998-11-14  NGLTC: _N_orth _G_eorgia _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (U.S.A.)

1. 1999-01-28  GMLTC: _G_reater _M_idwest _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (U.S.A.) -
   formerly CWC-CW LEGO Railroad

7. (?) 1999-07-16  NOVALTC: _No_rthern _V_irgini_a_ _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub -
   now WAMALUG (U.S.A.)

8. 1999-08-10  NELUG: _N_ew _E_ngland _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

9. (?) 1999-02-28  VicLUG: _Vic_toria _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Canada)

10. (?) 1999-09-03  GMLUG: _G_reater _M_idwest _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
   (U.S.A.)

11. (?) 1999-09-04  TexLUG: _Tex_as _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

12. (?) 1999-09-30  WAFOL: _W_asatch _A_rea _F_ans _o_f _L_EGO (U.S.A.)

13. (?) 1999-10-06  GFLTC: _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub
   (U.S.A.)

14. (?) 1999-10-31  LEGO-MUG: _LEGO_ _M_INDSTORMS _U_sers _G_roup (Japan)

7. (?) 1999-11-15  WAMALUG: _Wa_shington (D.C.) _M_etro _A_rea _L_EGO
   _U_sers _G_roup - formerly NOVALTC (U.S.A.)

15. (?) 1999-11-16  ITLUG: _It_alian _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Italy)

16. (?) 1999-11-24  DixieLUG: _Dixie_ _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

17. (?) 1999-11-28  UKLUG: _U_nited _K_ingdom _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.K.)

18. (?) 1999-12-02  LegOz (Australia)

19. 1999-12-09  FGLTC: _F_irst _G_erman _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (Germany)

20. (?) 2000-01-12  CMLUG: _C_entral _M_idwest _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
   (U.S.A.)

21. (?) 2000-01-15  NCLUG: _N_orth _C_arolina _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
   (U.S.A.)

22. (?) 2000-02-06  Studs (Australia)

23. (?) 2000-02-18  LUGOLA: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup _o_f _L_os _A_ngeles
   (U.S.A.)

24. (?) 2000-02-22  VLC: _V_ancouver _L_EGO _C_lub (Canada)

25. 2000-03-12  BayLTC: _Bay_ Area _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (U.S.A.)

26. 2000-03-17  NALUG: _N_orthern _A_lberta _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Canada)

27. (?) 2000-04-30  EJLTC: _E_ast _J_apan _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (Japan)

28. (?) 2000-05-28  SeaLUG: _Se_attle _A_rea _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

29. (?) 2000-07-07  GardenSLUG: _Garden_ _S_tate _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
   (U.S.A.)

30. 2000-07-21  WAMALTC: _Wa_shington (D.C.) _M_etro _A_rea _L_EGO _T_rain
   _C_lub (U.S.A.)

31. (?) 2000-09-04  GBLTC: _G_reater _B_rianza _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub (Italy)

32. 2000-10-21  MichLUG: _Mich_igan _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

33. 2000-11-13  MonLUG: _Mon_treal _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (Canada)

34. 2000-12-12  SMART: _S_eattle _M_indstorms _a_nd _R_obotic _T_echies
   (U.S.A.)

35. 2000-01-14  RichLUG: _Rich_mond _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

36. (?) 2000-02-07  LUGCO: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup of _C_entral _O_klahoma
   (U.S.A.)

37. (?) 2000-03-02  GFLUG:  _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
   (U.S.A.)

[end]

    
          
      
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.org.it, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:
[...]
I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:
   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates
TIA for any info you can provide!

Here is an updated list.  I am still missing a fair amount of info...any
definitive info is appreciated!  Please post as a follow-up to this post and
I will update the chart.  Thanks!

Looks like we're almost to 40 now...  :)

--Todd
...SNIP...
13. (?) 1999-10-06  GFLTC: _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub

The GFLTC was formed at the H&R Train Show (Sat, Oct 2, 1999) where I met
Dennis and Nick. We talk for an hour and decided to start the club.

...SNIP...

37. (?) 2000-03-02  GFLUG:  _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
   (U.S.A.)


The GFLUG started at a GFLTC meeting on June 21, 2000. This is where KK Quah
and I decided to start the LUG.

Good Luck...

Robin W
GFLTC/GFLUG

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org, "Robin Werner" <robstormer@cs.com> writes:
I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:
   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates
TIA for any info you can provide!
[...]
The GFLTC was formed at the H&R Train Show (Sat, Oct 2, 1999) where I met
Dennis and Nick. We talk for an hour and decided to start the club.
[...]
The GFLUG started at a GFLTC meeting on June 21, 2000. This is where KK Quah
and I decided to start the LUG.

OK, got it -- both dates.  Page updated.  Thanks!

--Todd

    
          
      
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in article 3aa29f04.91709731@lugnet.com, Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.org.it, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:

28. (?) 2000-05-28  SeaLUG: _Se_attle _A_rea _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

SEALUG held our first meeting on September 2, 2000, IIRC.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm not remembering correctly.

What's the 5-28 date from?

~Grand Admiral Muffin Head
--
Mark's Lego(R) Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org, Mark Sandlin writes:
in article 3aa29f04.91709731@lugnet.com, Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.org.it, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes:

28. (?) 2000-05-28  SeaLUG: _Se_attle _A_rea _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

SEALUG held our first meeting on September 2, 2000, IIRC.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm not remembering correctly.

What's the 5-28 date from?

~Grand Admiral Muffin Head

I think it was a little before that - The first post to the Lugnet Sealug
group was on Aug 24, 2000. I would have thought that we met before we got
our official Lugnet group. Maybe in July?

-mark (2)

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org, Mark Rideout writes:
In lugnet.org, Mark Sandlin writes:
in article 3aa29f04.91709731@lugnet.com, Todd Lehman wrote:

SEALUG held our first meeting on September 2, 2000, IIRC.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm not remembering correctly.
~Grand Admiral Muffin Head

I think it was a little before that - The first post to the Lugnet Sealug
group was on Aug 24, 2000. I would have thought that we met before we got
our official Lugnet group. Maybe in July?

-mark (2)

Just following up to add the Sealug group back to this chain.

-mark(2)

    
          
      
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:3aa29f04.91709731@lugnet.com...
[snip]

35. 2000-01-14  RichLUG: _Rich_mond _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

36. (?) 2000-02-07  LUGCO: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup of _C_entral _O_klahoma
    (U.S.A.)

37. (?) 2000-03-02  GFLUG:  _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)


Todd:

For these last three, the year should be 2001, not 2000.  Just a minor
correction.  :-)  Thanks.

Tim

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org, "Timothy D. Freshly" <timfreshly@shaheenlaw.com> writes:
35. 2000-01-14  RichLUG: _Rich_mond _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup (U.S.A.)

36. (?) 2000-02-07  LUGCO: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup of _C_entral _O_klahoma
    (U.S.A.)

37. (?) 2000-03-02  GFLUG:  _G_reater _F_lorida _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup
    (U.S.A.)

Todd:

For these last three, the year should be 2001, not 2000.  Just a minor
correction.  :-)

d'Oh! Time warp!

Thanks.

No, thank you!

--Todd

    
          
      
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
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31. (?) 2000-09-04  GBLTC: _G_reater _B_rianza _L_EGO _T_rain _C_lub
(Italy)

Todd,
GBLTC was mainly a joke. (It really never existed....)

The real name is: ITLTC: _IT_alian _L_ego _T_rain _C_lub.
http://www.itltc.org/

As you can see in: http://www.geocities.com/mario.ferrari/itlug_news_e.html
it was born October 13th 2000.

Thanks!
Carlo

    
          
      
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Todd,

Here are the dates for Dixie LUG:

1st meeting of DixieLUG - 22 January 2000
2nd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 April 2000
3rd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 July 2000
4th meeting of DixieLUG - 26 August 2000

Thanks,
Franklin

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org, "Franklin W. Cain" <fwcain@yahoo.com> writes:
Here are the dates for Dixie LUG:
1st meeting of DixieLUG - 22 January 2000
2nd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 April 2000
3rd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 July 2000
4th meeting of DixieLUG - 26 August 2000

OK, so is 22 Jan 2000 the "official" date that your organization was formed?
Or was that just its first official meeting?

If I'm reading this post correctly...

   http://news.lugnet.com/loc/us/ga/?n=54

...DixieLUG came into being on 19 Dec 1999?

--Todd

     
           
      
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman writes:

In lugnet.org, "Franklin W. Cain" <fwcain@yahoo.com> writes:

Here are the dates for Dixie LUG:
1st meeting of DixieLUG - 22 January 2000
2nd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 April 2000
3rd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 July 2000
4th meeting of DixieLUG - 26 August 2000

OK, so is 22 Jan 2000 the "official" date that your organization
was formed?  Or was that just its first official meeting?

First ever face-to-face meeting.  (...I'm hesitant to use the word
"official", though, in response to some spirited discussion quite
a while ago regarding which term to use: "members" vs. "attendees".
One of the more vigorously defended opinions -- by whom,
I no longer recall -- was that the term "members" would be too
formal and officious, so we agreed to stay informal and relaxed.
Just simple, laid-back Southern behavior.  ;-)

If I'm reading this post correctly...
http://news.lugnet.com/loc/us/ga/?n=54
...DixieLUG came into being on 19 Dec 1999?

OK.  That works for me.

I hope that recollections have been of assistance.  ;-)

Thanks,
Franklin

PS,
In case I've not yet said so, CONGRATULATIONS on y'all's upcoming marriage.

    
          
      
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Hello Todd,

LUGCO was formed 2001-01-22

Thanks,
Todd Trotter


36. (?) 2000-02-07  LUGCO: _L_EGO _U_sers _G_roup of _C_entral _O_klahoma
   (U.S.A.)

    
          
     
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Todd,

LCLTC Low Country LTC is in Charleston, SC

First meeting was 10-23-01.

We have a 4 members.

Thanx,

Mark
#525

   
         
   
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In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman wrote:
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

TIA for any info you can provide!

LegOz should be removed, it was only ever really a temporary name. You should
add:

1999-12-02  MUGS (Australia)
2003-03-23  M>ltc (Australia)

ROSCO

   
         
   
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In lugnet.org, Ross Crawford wrote:
In lugnet.org, Todd Lehman wrote:
I am starting a list of local users group and clubs.  I want it to be as
complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and
graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each
group/club.

I'm also starting a little webpage for this list, so that I can update it as
info comes in:

   http://news.lugnet.com/org/dates

TIA for any info you can provide!

LegOz should be removed, it was only ever really a temporary name. You should
add:

1999-12-02  MUGS (Australia)
2003-03-23  M>ltc (Australia)

ROSCO

X-posted to .admin.suggestions to make sure Rene has a shot of seeing it.

Jude

 

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