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Re: Stephenson's Rocket
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > > Have you played Stephenson's Rocket? I can't get enough of it.
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> > What, pray tell, is this? By the title, I'd adjudge it to do with railroads,
> > but is it a PC game, a board game, or what?
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> Board. It is of German origin. It's by Reiner Knizia and distributed in
> English in the US by Rio Grande Games. It's a fairly abstract board game, but
> is very very challenging. I most highly reccommend it.
Sounds good. Can you tell more about it? For example, I consider 1830 more
"abstract" than eurorails. One of the reasons I like 1830 is the stock market
manipulation. What do you mean by abstract..
For flat out beer and pretzels, it's tough to beat railway rivals... a bit of
business at the beginning about who gets through what passes first, and then
it's just pure luck.
> > My faves in the RR genre:
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> > PC: Railroad Tycoon (original, strangely enough)
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> I've played a few hundred hours of the new version and I think I agree with
> you. The original has soul that the new one (which I have to give points to
> for technical improvement) lacks. I do like the fact that there is a player
> community on the net involved in creating maps and scenarios for the new game.
I'll have to check that out.
> I also like the PC version of 1830. I mostly play with random maps now.
I have a rather old CD at this point of this which we played a fair bit, but I
like the board version better, multiplayer on the PC was cumbersome, and single
player not as fun as against humans. (it's great to send someone up the river
with a well timed dump, and you can't do that against the PC players, they
can't be suckered...)
> > Board: 1830 when serious, Eurorails or Iron Dragon, when just for fun,
> > although Streetcar is also challenging
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> I prefer 1870 of the 18xx games that I've played (1830, 56, 70, • 53(?...Imperial
> India), and 35.
I've only played '29 (? the english) '30 and '35 (which I found quite hard to
fathom, I don't grok the intermediate stage). Why do you like '70?
> Eurorails is my fave of the crayon games, but Iron Dragon has some nice rules
> additions. (I don't care for the foreman rules) Nippon (especially) or
> Australian or Brittish rails both make better two player games than the large
> boards.
Yes. Between my brother in law and me, we have all of them except british
and the original, strangely enough, and Nippon is good for a fast 2 player.
> I've played Silverton, and I think there are some good ideas burried in it, • but
> it's really boring and cumbersome.
I've had good luck getting mundanes to try Silverton, better than say, empire
builder or rail baron, believe it or not. I agree with you, I too think there's
a good game in there somewhere struggling to get out. The notion of controlling
your own production and the strategic thinking about whether to go for one
mineral or a smattering of all, and the way the market responds to supply are
all good.
> Union Pacific is pretty good - basically a
> remake of Airlines.
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> My favorite 'train' board game is Iron Duke, but it's only a train game in the
> way it's portrayed. It's doesn't feel trainy, and it's really a puzzle game.
I haven't played these. Have you played Streetcar?
I should also mention Transport Tycoon which I like a lot (and which you can
see the bones of in RollerCoaster Tycoon, my current fave PC game).
I just got the Lionel Trans Con PC game which I stumbled across at KBKids while
looking for other stuff, haven't tried it yet.
++Lar
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| (...) but (...) OK. Knizia's games (the ones that I know at least) seem to have a fairly small ruleset by which the players manipulate stuff within a fixed space. These game/rule/logic systems have a veneer of theme pasted on. Often, even the best (...) (24 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| (...) Board. It is of German origin. It's by Reiner Knizia and distributed in English in the US by Rio Grande Games. It's a fairly abstract board game, but is very very challenging. I most highly reccommend it. (...) I've played a few hundred hours (...) (24 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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