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Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
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Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:49:15 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Christian Treczoks wrote:
> Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> > Is Jake achieving? Are you joking?
> Not joking. Only raising a point.
And what point is that? The point is only worthwhile if Jake hasn't done
anything - and the reality is that he has done something. He's done a lot.
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> > Maybe you're just not going to BrickFest, ever reading Jake's posts or
> > interacting with TLG at all - but I'd say Jake isn't just doing something..
> No, never went to BrickFest. Too far. Yes, communicated and discussed a
> lot of things with him, and talked to him personally, of course, when he
> was over here. TLG interacting? Now you're joking...
No I am not. By TLG interacting, I refer to talking with a few marketing
represetatives, or store managers, or product development persons, not to
mention various model builders, etc. I've done all of this and it is 100%
because of Jake. Christina Hitchcock, Steve Barile, and Holger Matthes have
actually met and spoken with Kjeld himself.
http://www.holgermatthes.de/bricks/pics_billund/05_kkk1.jpg
So.. how exactly is interacting with TLG a joke?
> > Jake is doing A LOT!
> > And by that, I mean >achieving< results, not just spinning wheels.
> Yes, he achieved some things. I never denied that. But he has to fight
> an extremely dumb, fat and slow corporate juggernaut. So his chances to
> move something from "want" to "have" are quite low in this company. I
> appreciate him for trying this, though. And I'll try to help him
> wherever I can. Even (and especially) by voicing concers in the open.
And this exactly is what makes Jake's accomplishments even more amazing.
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> > But the one thing I see that he is not achieving, is winning the complete trust
> > of AFOLs - but then, I have to wonder if that is really possible. It seems more
> > and more to me that there is a contingent of AFOLs and Lugnet that refuses to be
> > satisfied unless everyone else stops and cow-tows to their every demand. Well,
> > aint gonna happen.
> It is indeed hard to trust Jake. He is an employee of TLC, and he is
> bound by agreements which prevent him from open communication with us.
> It is not his fault that trusting a person such bound is next to
> impossible. This is nothing personal against Jake, it is just an nearly
> mathematical assessment of a trust level based on the surrounding factors.
Odd, I don't find it difficult to trust Jake at all. He seems logical,
rational, level-headed. I find it more difficult to NOT trust Jake.
We are all bound from complete & open communication. There is a lot of
information that TLG can't tell us right now. But there is a very clear
difference between 100% full disclosure and trust. "Trust" means when Jake says
something, you believe it. And I don't see how Jake working for a company
necessarily means we can't trust him.
> > I am a proud friend and supporter of Jake. I am thoroughly impressed by his
> > continual love and devotion to the LEGO Fan community, even despite continual
> > attacks against his person.
> As I said, I don't attack him. Indeed, I feel deeply sorry for Jake to
> have to cope with us and that company and wish him all the best not to
> get ground between the two.
I think the best way to make it easier on Jake is to not be a continual thorn in
his side by questioning his trustworthiness, his committment to AFOLs and his
achievements within the company.
-Lenny
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