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Subject: 
Making magazines (was Re: This is incredible!)
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Tue, 16 May 2000 17:12:09 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Rich Manzo writes:
[...]
Lego went out of their way to give us a little smile when we opened up
our mania magazine [...]
They put that logo in the mag because they thought we would like it [...]
They put it there as a private message for us.

Sorry for the heavy editing, but I just want to address these parts of your
post. You make these statements with such certainty that I would expect you to
have actually been in their art dept. when decisions were made.

I'd love to discover that you had proof of the above. However, if there is no
proof, then it is only a speculation. a guess. I've thought about this too. And
many other possible scenarios.

[sorry this is so long]
Now, I just want to remind or inform readers that I worked in magazine
publishing for a number of years. I was a freelance illustrator (my drawings
accompanying editorial content) for many magazines. I was also a page layout
designer and eventually head designer for two magazines at Sky Publishing Corp.

Part of my job was to order up custom artwork from outside illustrators. Having
a position in a magazine's art department means working with just about
everybody else involved in that publication -- from the editor-in-chief to the
people who run the presses. I am very familiar with the typical "life-process"
of an issue's development: start to finish (and even beyond the finish
sometimes).

A magazine's content, in this case artwork, would be seen at least a few times
by different people as it cycled through editorial approval, layout,
proofreading, editing, art placement, and proof checking. The pages may loop
through these people a number of times. At any point, if a red flag went up for
someone, they would note it or check it out.

At every magazine I worked for, computer screens were notoriously problematic.
If there was a great level of detail elsewhere in the image and the screen was
going to be readable, what should be on it? In photography, sometimes multiple
images were combined digitally to get a picture that looked "real." But if the
screen was not relevant to the story, it would preferably be as "unobvious" as
possible, so as not to distract. (People automatically seem to notice a screen
and want to read what's on it.) In some cases a computer would be asked not to
be there at all. (this happening at sketch stage)

In cases where a computer's presence was desired, but screen content was
unimportant, here's what's been my experience:

As an artist, I often drew the computer from the back or the side or above, or
I'd put a user or an office plant in the way of screen, or have the computer
turned off, or make a bunch of fuzzy overlapping boxes with only horizontal
lines where text would be.

As an art director, I had to be sure that such a Hot spot was going to be "ok."
It was not a place for the publishing company to plug their own website or
software (considered cheezy) and I needed to be sure as possible that there
would be nothing potentially offensive there. The less the screen had to say,
the better.

After looking closely at the Mania Magazine illustration, I'm baffled. The
screen image looks oddly sloppy. Someone could have altered the artist's work
(tsk,tsk). It even looks like they signed the screen.

Assuming for a moment that this was a lower-level (artist's) decision (for
whatever reason), I think it's very possible that the editors, etc had no clue
that there was any special meaning to the logo. They may not have even seen it
as a logo, rather as some ambiguous LEGO blob with fakey stuff around it. This
would allow the page to pass through all hands unquestioned. I can imagine a
confused proofreader asking what that word was (LUGNET) but that's about it.

IF this were what happened, then what you percieve as a nod from LEGO would be a
winkie from an individual (possibly fan), not a company-wide bow or high five. I
personally suspect the company to be largely ignorant of the LUGNET logo -- even
if it were held up in front of them at poster-size. We'll have to work on that.
:-)

So, no matter how it happened, I believe any magazine deserves a slap for a slip
like this, not being more careful. What they did was wrong. It makes no
difference who was responsible or what their motive was.

As a side comment, slightly related, I noticed that the Mania Magazine depicts
an iMac as the choice of computer. Being a long time Apple fan and iMac owner, I
saw the computer itself as a strong choice. I say this because in my
illustrations, I loved to draw  vaguely Mac-like computers. If it were
inappropriate, the staff would let me know and I'd finish the drawing with a PC.

LEGO Media International, LEGO TECHNIC, and LEGO Mindstorms having not released
any Mac-compatible software, I thought it was funny. Most artists seem to like
their Macs very much. Anyway, nice Apple plug (they're way more hip looking
anyhow)
;-)

-Suz.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Making magazines (was Re: This is incredible!)
 
(...) Y'know, this sounds most reasonable to me. Funny that only a few months ago it would have been cool that _anyone_ in Lego acknowledged the existence of LUGnet; now, having actual official recognition in the form of Mr. Justus, the exact same (...) (24 years ago, 17-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
  Re: Making magazines (was Re: This is incredible!)
 
(...) Thanks for the insight Suzanne! Perhaps we should look at it this way. Lower level LEGO employees are more hip about the LEGO community than mid-level management. Perhaps this is a wink to us from the LEGO rank and file that got past the (...) (24 years ago, 17-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)

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(...) This is making me sick. Lego went out of their way to give us a little smile when we opened up our mania magazine and we show our respect by doing nothing but criticizing them for the past 24 hours! They put that logo in the mag because they (...) (24 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.general) ! 

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