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    New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
   Hi all, Reference: (URL) and: (2 URLs) Thanks to all who were responding to the previous draft, here is another one: (URL) A few comments: --- Ted Michon wrote: I notice that if I have already visited a top 10 item that it's compacted and expands (...) (17 years ago, 13-Dec-06, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX) !! 
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —David Eaton
     (...) Mostly looks good in terms of the layout and features. But a few comments: Designy comments first: 1) I'm not sure I understand why you wanted to change the colors of the logo and the background? Personally, I find the new colors a little too (...) (17 years ago, 13-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
      Hi Dave, (...) I will have an alternative CSS ready in a few minutes which uses background-colors with less chroma. In general, the colors are changed slightly to match one "color chart" (don't know how to describe this in English). Actually, in the (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
      (...) I was thinking about these and came up with some ideas, René. I will work them up this weekend and present Monday. JOHN (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
      (...) thanks for taking the time, John, I'm looking forward to see the results! -Rene (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
      (...) Well, I procrastinated my work today, and voila: (URL) I thought that it would be cool (and consistent) to retain the LUGNET "triangle" feel of all the icons. Your spotlight idea, as mine, also has a triangular feel to it. The events icons is (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
       (...) John, I really like these a lot -- especially the Links icon. Only thing I'd change is making the colors a little more saturated, darker. --Todd (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
      
           Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
       (...) (URL) Done>. I sampled the colors from the front page logo. JOHN (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
      (...) Hi John, they're wonderful, I've used "Events" and "FAQ" for draft #6 (was too lazy to convert also "Links" at the moment ;-) THANKS! René (17 years ago, 20-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
       (...) Hey, no need. Just LMK what size you want it and I can send it to you. Todd: I'll sample the colors from the homepage logo. Glad you liked them, René! JOHN (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
      In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Rene Hoffmeister wrote: (was too lazy to convert also "Links" at the moment ;-) :-) HTH: (URL) Also, check this out: (URL) I adjusted the spotlight slightly and I really don't think it looks too bad at all. JOHN (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
     (...) Yeah, let's be careful not to lose the studs. --Todd (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Brendan Powell Smith
     Hi, Rene. Firstly, thanks for all the work you are putting into this. I did not get a chance to comment on the (URL) previous draft> (Draft #1), but I've now got the latest draft (Draft #2), Draft #1, and the current LUGENT front pages up (...) (17 years ago, 14-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     (...) Ja, me too, but obviously eye friendly distances are threatened with extinction :-) (...) You're right. Maybe "Editorial News"? (...) There's something wrong with my CSS, but I wasn't able to figure it out. The next draft will be without (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Anders Isaksson
     (...) My immediate recations were: - It looks quite good! But... - The top bar takes more than 20% of my available browser window (1152x860 display), but doesn't have content to match. - Why isn't the search in the top bar? That's where I'd expect (...) (17 years ago, 14-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     (...) I will try this one on the next draft, let's see how this catches on. (...) WCAG. Please see my answer to Dave's post. I will change this nevertheless. (...) I will try one single step smaller, but not more. Than it's enough :-) (...) Yes, I (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Anders Isaksson
     (...) :-) My eyes are not that good anymore, that's why I can't turn my screen up to 1280x1024, but have to stay at 1152x864. This means that there's not so much screen real estate left when all the window frames, logos etc. have had their place. (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Nathan Todd
      Hi, Thanks for all this hard work! The new page is growing on me ; ) I still think it lacks a certain 'plain yet effective' quality but realize that is what also has to be sacrificed to bring in mew users. My only big suggestion: Could the search (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     (...) Hi Nathan, in draft #6 it is (finally)... Leg Godt! René (URL) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ondrew Hartigan
     (...) much much better!. a few minor sugestions: eliminate the baby blue bar across the top of the page with the welcome note and put the welcome note in a white box at the center of the page much like the "announcment boxes". this would bring all (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Anders Isaksson
      (...) I don't agree. The logo overlapping the bottom of the blue field shows that there really are "no limits" :-) I like it as it is, it keeps the visual balance of the page. Having the blue field as large as the logo makes the page top-heavy, (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ondrew Hartigan
      (...) i think i might have confused you. i would neither shrink or enlarge the logo but rather match the width of the darker blue stripe to that of the logo. i like the logo size as is. ondrew p.s. i hope i was a little more clear this time. sorry (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     (...) Good idea, I made it even more simple, what do you think about this one? (URL) Leg Godt! Rene (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
      (...) That's good-- that's kind of what I had in mind. I had the idea of putting a brick in the spotlight, so as to imply a MOC being highlighted. If not a brick, I would spin the spotlight around so that the entire LUGNET logo was in the spotlight. (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
      (...) I'd be curious to see what it looks like with the spotlight coming from the upper-left, as John suggests. --Todd (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
      (...) Hi Todd, nice to read you! I've tried, but it looks wacky. IMO the contrast is needed to show that the logo is actually "in the spotlight" and not cased by a cone. Nevertheless, I'm still not too happy with the current logo set. -René (URL) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ondrew Hartigan
      (...) ROCKIN! looks good to me. visualy it makes much more sence now. ondrew (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Marco Tagliaferri
     (...) Hi René, those are the best icons up to now. I like this approach very much. It shows that we are on LUGNet here. Leg Godt! Marco (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     Hi all, thanks again for the feedback, I guess we come closer to a final design. Here are three more sketches, the difference between them is only the colors. I moved the Search up to the right corner and tried to thin out the middle section a (...) (17 years ago, 15-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX) ! 
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
      (...) I'm really starting to like it! One thing about the LUGNET logo. I work with a lot of corporations and dealing with their logos. It seems standard procedure that there needs to be a "quiet" space around any logo, which is often determined by (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Brendan Powell Smith
      (...) I agree with John about this. If the LUGNET logo must be in a box, it should at least have more space around it. But I also still highly favor the larger, non-boxed LUGNET logo from (URL) this draft>. On an only somewhat related note... the (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
       (...) I really like this draft as well, because of the lack of boxes. The only problem with not having a box around it this draft is that the logo gets diluted by the colors passing behind it. On my own somewhat related note... the actual LUGNET (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
      
           Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Brendan Powell Smith
       (...) Nice, thanks for the illustration. (...) I can certainly understand the hesitation in thayt regard. (...) There might be some implied favoritism toward the yellow L if we count (URL) this Todd & Suz created image> for anything. But I was more (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
      
           Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
       (...) It's a good question, Brendan. It's been 8 years and I can't recall exactly what the decision process was, but I do recall we felt that certain orientations looked upside down, while others looked right-side up. I think we looked at 12 (...) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ross Crawford
      (...) (URL) Not quite>. ROSCO (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Marco Tagliaferri
      (...) Hi René, personally I like this one the most. Cheers (URL) Marco> (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Anders Isaksson
      (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ondrew Hartigan
      (...) ondrew (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Brendan Powell Smith
     Hi, Rene. I put together a mock-up image of my suggestions for tweaks to the new LUGNET front page. I am using (URL) index-test-2> as a basis since I prefer the overall look of that draft to any of the ones since then. (Not that the (URL) latest (...) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)  
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Brendan Powell Smith
      Sorry, the link to the full size image did not seem to work. Here's the link again: (URL) -Brendan (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
      (...) Looks great without the box! BTW, the "shadows" in the logo should be darker versions of the brick colors (e.g., dark blue, dark red, dark yellow) instead of black. But in terms of a mock-up, that's just a minor point. (...) Another minor (...) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
       (...) I am little surprised about that, Todd. Actually, I am worrying about the dilution of the LUGNET logo by using it freely within other graphics. It is clever, but I fear too clever by half. Bad branding. .02, JOHN (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
      
           Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
       (...) I like it because I think it readily communicates what the icon means: "Search LUGNET". I would color it slightly differently and make the studs show subtly, but that's just a refinement. (...) To me it feels very similar to the way the logo (...) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
      
           Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —John Neal
       (...) Okay, I see your point; I can live with the magnifying glass:-) But I draw the line at bullets. It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever. - St. Hubbins JOHN (17 years ago, 20-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ross Crawford
       (...) Actually, it's another of those words where common use has blurred what some would consider the correct usage. Many dictionaries now list it as a noun, eg: (URL) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Todd Lehman
       (...) LiveJournal, SourceForge, and the New York Times all do it correctly, just to name a few: (URL) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Brendan Powell Smith
      (...) Glad you like the overall look of the mock-up I did, but I should be careful not to take too much credit. I really just moved stuff around that was in Rene's (URL) index-test-2> and subsequent drafts. So any imperfections in the logo shadow (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
     
          Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ross Crawford
      (...) I'm pretty sure only the encrypted password is stored on the server, so it isn't able to send you your clear-text password. But I could be wrong. That is better from a security standpoint, but means the only way to reset your password if you (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     Hi Brendan, thank you very much for taking the time to make this image. It's really a lot of fun creating the new frontpage with all the help from various people. (...) The borders are made out of 4 different pictures, each is a background picture (...) (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —David Winkler
     (...) renders good in my browser. Looks good on screen. A few comments, which I hope are constructive: "Brickworld 2007(1 Dec 2006) BrickJournal" I mention this only because a lot of the center announcements are for events. This makes it look like (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
      Hi David, thank you very much for your comments and ideas! (...) I've made the date smaller in draft #6, IMO it should be enough, but I could be wrong. (...) At the moment, this list is -um...- a "list" (actually HTML element "UL"/"LI"). I tried to (...) (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Timothy Gould
     (...) From memory you have to put the list spacing on the UL rather than the LI elements. I know you can control just about everything but it has to be done in the right spot. Tim (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
     (...) Hi Tim, but formatting UL would apply on all LI elements, I just would like to format the LI elements with a specific class. If you like, have a look at (URL) and (URL)* to see what I mean (div#boxlinks) Regards, Rene * This file is messy, I (...) (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
    
         Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Timothy Gould
     (...) Hi Rene, I think the principal is that a list should look the same for all elements. If you want some to be different you should make two layers of lists or a list followed by a span or div. Tim (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —David Winkler
     (...) renders good in my browser. Looks good on screen. A few comments, which I hope are constructive: "Brickworld 2007(1 Dec 2006) BrickJournal" I mention this only because a lot of the center announcements are for events. This makes it look like (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 —Ted Michon
   (...) Rene- The latest draft seems "broken" viewed with Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.8. Specifically, the picure for the SCLTC story (gee, that's a coincidence!) continuously appears and pierces through the black border on the bottom of the SCLTC story (...) (17 years ago, 16-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
   
        Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3 Rene Hoffmeister
   (...) Hi Ted, is this still the case here? (URL) Anyway, thanks for pointing this out! Leg Godt! Rene (17 years ago, 21-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
 

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