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  linker segmentation fault
 
I'm running Red Hat Linux 8.0 (gcc 3.2 and binutils 2.13). Whe I try to compile the demos that come with brickOS 0.2.6.09, using binutils 2.12.91 for the cross-linker and gcc 3.2.1 as cross-compiler, the linker crashes. Here is the output of the (...) (22 years ago, 17-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
(...) To tell you the truth, I'm not exactly sure how the BrickOS PWM works, but I do know the standard RCX PWM simply switches the motors between ON and FLOAT, which will not slow the motor down, when it switches from a high power, to a lower (...) (22 years ago, 16-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: sys_time (long post)
 
Only a suggestion, In any processor architecture (with or without disabling or recursive interrupts) when I need to read timers with more than 1 single instruction I do the following: Read the timer (both low and high value) until I get 2 times the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: sys_time (long post)
 
(...) I went back and read... I was missing something apparently... Note to self... do not skim. -Kekoa (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: sys_time (long post)
 
Does the H8 let an interrupt interrupt an interrupt? (Or at least the interrupts that matter in this case?) You two might want to check on that. It would seem the code is safe if the answer to the first question is no... ? Maybe I'm missing (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
Joe, (...) Maybe a special kernel build for testing purposes that increments the lower sys_time word by 0x4000 instead of 1. This will greatly increase the opportunity for this glitch to occur (from once every 65 seconds to once every 4ms.) You (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
Steve, I checked in some changes this morning (into cvs) to put the motor controller back at the 1 ms interval. However, I want to complete the get_sys_time() updates that Mark Riley has proposed; so that can be tested as well. I am not sure when (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: sys_time (long post)
 
(...) It turns out that the nature of the glitch depends on the order you read the upper and lower 16-bits of sys_time. If the compiler generates code that reads the high word first (which it seems to do), then your example will work. However, if (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
(...) In trying to balance an RCX on two wheels, every little bit makes a difference. I didn't think it would matter quite that much, but my robot really shakes more with the new version. Thanks for the work, Steve (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  setjmp/longjmp for brickOS
 
Hi all, I am currently attending to a lecture in real time system on my university and we were assigned the homework to do exception handling in C on the RCX using setjmp and longjmp. Of course those are not available in brickOS so that task (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
(...) <snip> (...) Steve, Yes, infact I had tested a couple different applications with the motor controller being called every 1 ms and the same ones with a 2 ms interval. I didn't see a difference with those applications, but did recognize the (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
(...) ... (...) This change seem to improve things. Can I change it back to the way it was before? Thanks Steve (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: sys_time (long post)
 
Mark, Excellent Post ! Ok, I will admit it; I was the one that put the sys_time handler on the NMI. 8-) I guess I will want to think about this a bit; but I see that you have done a good bit of that yourself. ... Could the 'Get' function do the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Win98 cygwin USB installation
 
Hi Collin, This post by John Hansen fixed things for me: (URL) Spencer" <cspencer@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message news:H71CzB.Ipu@lugnet.com... (...) USB (...) them or (...) to (...) the (...) the (...) USB (...) that (...) the (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Win98 cygwin USB installation
 
Ok, I think I figured it out...I don't completely understand the logistics of makefiles, but I changed the following line in Makefile.common: Before: CFLAGS = -O2 -Wall After: CFLAGS += -O2 -Wall I suspect that a later assignment to CFLAGS was (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Win98 cygwin USB installation
 
Hello, I recently bought the LEGO mindstorms Invention System kit and I am trying to get brickOS v0.2.6 working on my PC (Win98). I also have the USB tower. So far, I have found 4 bugs in the current script. I was able to fix 3 them or work around (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: BrickOS Threading...
 
The motor handler is only called once ever 2ms in the latest version of BrickOS (as opposed to every 1ms in earlier versions). This is a fairly recent change and it could be causing a "granularity" type problem with certain speed settings in your (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  BrickOS Threading...
 
I'm having a problem, and I hope someone can help me. I've been running winLegOS, and I've switched to the latest version of BrickOS. I created a way to control the motors, which will reliably speed them up, and slow them down by using different (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  sys_time (long post)
 
As I was poking around in the BrickOS kernel, it occurred to me that using the sys_time variable isn't entirely safe. Since sys_time is 32-bits and the processor can only read 16-bits at a time into a register, there is a period of time between the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Cygwin under Virtual PC on OS X
 
(...) David, I was not sure how you tried to build the cross compiler but I know that Apple provides several gnu tools that work under Darwin. Darwin from my understanding is the underlying code for the Mac OS X (See FAQ at (URL) So one might be (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Cygwin under Virtual PC on OS X
 
Oops, Sorry if I accidentally gave anyone false hope, I ment to say: I have not found any cross compiler packages for LegOS or the Hitachi H8 that are buildable under OS X (but would love to find one). Anyone know of any? (...) (22 years ago, 12-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: Installation Help!
 
Max, Aha! I did that and it got a lot further this time, but still failed. I'll have to wade through the log file to try and pinpoint where it went wrong as I don't want to post the whole 180k. Thanks for your help! Andy -----Original Message----- (...) (22 years ago, 10-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Installation Help!
 
(...) You need to install the Cygwin gcc package. You need the normal Cygwin gcc to build the Cygwin->H8300 cross-compiler gcc. Max. (22 years ago, 9-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: installation of cygwin and legos/brickos
 
John, It looks as if you don't have the cross compiler or it is is not in a known directory. Try searching your entire hard drive for h8300. That might bring something up. You should have either tired to build the cross compiler or downloaded it (...) (22 years ago, 9-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Installation Help!
 
Thanks for the info! I checked and I do have grep installed. But I did not install anything other than was listed. I initially tried to install everything but the download died after a couple of hours on my T1 connection. Would some kind person with (...) (22 years ago, 9-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Installation Help!
 
(...) Hi Max, I got: $ gcc -v BASH: gcc: command not found but the command I am running to get all this output is the buildgcc.sh command to build gcc. Andy (22 years ago, 9-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: installation of cygwin and legos/brickos
 
(...) Saw this problem before. You might check older mails in this newsgroup discussing that. Running brickOS under Linux I don't know much about the cygwin problems. But your makefile assumes that the c compiler can be run with the command "cc" (...) (22 years ago, 8-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: installation of cygwin and legos/brickos
 
John, What version of legOS are you using? Looking at the code below it seems to indicate that you are using legOS ver 0.2.6 (unless in the newer versions of brickOS we forgot to change a directory name). I am also going to gues that you are using (...) (22 years ago, 8-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  installation of cygwin and legos/brickos
 
I have previously reported problems in installing cygwin and legos, and have tried again to get this up and running. I believe that cygwin is not properly installed and have included information here on all modules included and error messages when I (...) (22 years ago, 8-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: New Threading Model in legOS 0.2.5
 
(...) One can view an English translation using Babel here, (URL) goto (URL) and enter the url (URL) (22 years ago, 7-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  New Threading Model in legOS 0.2.5
 
Hi In our diploma work we implemented a completely new threading model. We implemented a subset of the pthreads API as it is available in Linux. Now eventhandling has also been improved. One negative point: we did not yet adabt dynamic program (...) (22 years ago, 7-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Installation Help!
 
(...) ... (...) I have built the h8300 cross compilers many times now. It was hard at first, but now I've nailed down the correct set of options, I have no problems. Here are the commands I use: First: export PATH=/h8x/bin:$PATH Binutils: (...) (22 years ago, 7-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Installation Help!
 
(...) Are you *sure* you installed gcc ? Try 'gcc -v' from a Cygwin prompt, and post the output. Max. (22 years ago, 7-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Installation Help!
 
Hello I am certainly not an expert, and have not yet been successful in installing BrickOS myself. But I have some experience in one of the messages that you are getting: (...) I believe that if you are using the instructions as listed at (URL) that (...) (22 years ago, 6-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Installation Help!
 
Hi, I'm sorry if this has already been posted a million times before. I tried using te search for some of the errors I am seeing but I couldn't find any matches. It is failing when I try to build the gcc compiler. I'm following the installation (...) (22 years ago, 6-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: brickOS and latest binutils
 
(...) The $-sign before symbol addresses was accidentaly removed when that bit of code was re-written to fix a different bug. It's now back. (...) Not really. I may have overstated that. Basically, it involves some moderately complex interactions (...) (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: brickOS and latest binutils
 
(...) What's the change? Has the symbolsrec format reverted to the one used before? (...) Why a COFF guru? To understand the h8300-coff format? Sorry if these are stupid questions. Just curious. (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Motor LCD arrows bug
 
In BrickOS 0.2.6.08, there's a minor bug where the LCD arrows misbehave when the motor direction is set to brake. I believe the intention is to turn both direction arrows on when the output is in the brake state. However, what happens is that only (...) (22 years ago, 4-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  brickOS and latest binutils (1 issue now fixed in binutils CVS, and workaround patch to brickOS for the other)
 
The "invalid symbolsrec file" issue (error from makelx) issue is now fixed in binutils CVS, both on the trunk, and on the 2.13 branch - so the next release of binutils, be it 2.13.2 or 2.14 will have this fixed. The "ld segmentation fault" issue is (...) (22 years ago, 4-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Lindows
 
(...) Yes, it should. It works on my system a debian testing. cheers, Pieter (22 years ago, 3-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)


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