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(...) I just have to ask why you're doing this, just for the heck of it? I mean, the output device you're writing two can hold a whopping five characters at a time. I don't really see the benefit of changing to a more complicated interface. Of (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) when i remove -O from my Makefile the kernel grew bigger, and crossed 0xb000, so i changed it accordingly, and that didn't work. so i guess there is 16k limitation for kernel and user program. (...) too bad, but there's not much to work on (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) hehehe... (...) my (...) it's from www.nogs.de/legos i think. but it doesn't really matter since i've compiled 2.95.2 and the new binutils. imel (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Sorry about that, Jonathan. I didn't think that there was any legOS code in Dave's book, but I didn't want to argue with someone who had read it more recently or more thoroughly than I had (which, honestly, wasn't very much, since I don't do NQC.) (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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For the record: _The Unofficial Guide to Lego Mindstorms Robots_ was written by me, Jonathan Knudsen. I'm pretty sure this is the book you're using, since it has the Hank robot in it. As you've observed, the legOS code is for version 0.1.7, and the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) I'd assume that the first targets will be US bookstores, probably Amazon first ;) But I don't really know. Mainly, I know because they promised to ship us (the authors) our copies as soon as they are off the presses ;) (...) I have never heard (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) Thanks for the info :) Eaagerly awaiting..any idea if they are being distributed worldwide or just usa side ? (...) I Found problem!!! If I call LCD_refresh , having not changed the screen, it goes mad!!! Thats as far as I've debugged it...now (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) About Extreme Mindstorms (please skip if you don't want to see my shameless plugs): I have it on good word that it'll be out from the printer's next Monday. For those of you who haven't seen, I'll shamelessly plug it again: (URL) you are (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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I recently purchased Dave Baums ' Unofficial Guide to Lego Mindstorms' (a good book:), stlil waiting on the extreme one to come out here in the uk though... :) I'm trying to get 'Hank the robot' to work...the little guy just won't, I guess that (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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I'd actually really like to include Chris's patch in the official tree, but I'm informed by folks with more clue about the networking stuff than me that switching the parity bit would probably break some LNP stuff. Would everyone be happier if I (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) The remote control sends with parity odd, but the rcx is programmed to no parity. If the parity bit has the same value as a undriven line (I think it is logical 1), the byte is received, but otherwise the byte gets thrown away by the serial (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Hi I've just got the LEGO remote control (from the Ultimate Accessory Kit), and of cause it dosen't work with legos. So I tried to see, if anyone had done some kind of driver to it, but I couldn't find any, and began hacking in the legOS kernel (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) Yes, it has been done. There are no binaries on the web, though, nor up-to-date instructions. :( Paolo Masetti (paolom@pragmanet.it) has started writing up instructions, but I don't know how far along he is in them; he is very, very busy with (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Hi, Is the h8300-hms cross compiler needed by LegOS available as a working program under the cygwin 1.1.4 environment (I'm running Windows ME). Or am I better off downloading all the djgpp stuff a'la Roxxz's page? ((URL)) I already have cygwin (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Luis, Kernel seems to Make just fine as do .dll modules. All my programs are running pretty much like before, except as noted below: Scaled sensor inputs like LIGHT_2 seem to be more stable and reasonably ranged than in previous versions. Wonder (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Hi, I think some things need clearification: 1. lnp_address_handler() is called from interrupt. It may not sleep. There is sample code how to do the packet handling, sleeping and malloc()'ing in legOS/kernel/program.c 2. Interrupts or functions (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) started dabbling (...) interrupts (...) from the (...) Yes. lnp_integrity_handler() and lnp_address_handler()s are still called from IR byte receiving interrupt. No problem in the actual implementation (taking care of it) but it should be a (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) ^^^...^^^ (...) The problem is with your makedepend; it doesn't accept the option '-Y' and therefore doesn't generate the .depend file. Please post the output of: which makedepend and rpm -qf `which makedepend` Regards, Hakan (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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And it is now checked in to CVS. Thanks again! Luis (...) ---...--- "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. They are our environment." WordPerfect manager, talking about Word ---...--- (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) < snip - snip > John - Thank you so much for your help. I just tested your code, and it WORKS PERFECT! You've saved me a lot of trouble. Thanks again. And now on to coding my rcx... :-) Niels Sandholt Busch (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Ok, well, it is checked in on my tree but sourceforge CVS doesn't seem to be up at the moment. I'll check it in as soon as sourceforge is happy again. Thanks yet again to those who helped pinpoint this problem. Luis (...) ---...--- "It's clear to us (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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John- Thanks a bunch for finding that. I'll check that fix into CVS this afternoon. Luis (...) ---...--- "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. They are our environment." WordPerfect manager, talking about Word ---...--- (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) Markus can just about definitely handle any questions. Unfortunately, he no longer responds to much of anything. :| Anyway, thanks for the detailed response, Marek... Luis ---...--- "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) In legOS v0.2.3 and probably in v0.2.4 they are still called from the interrupt handler (rx_handler). (...) The interrupt handling should be fast, hence any heavy proccessing in lnp_handler is discouraged. Msleep, malloc and similiar functions (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Man, that was fast! I just posted that. Thanks Luis! I'll check it out tonight. Dave (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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There is no 0.2.5 as of yet- there may be within a couple of weeks. There really aren't many substantial changes (mainly C++, two very, very small bugfixes.) If you are interested in testing what is in CVS right now I've posted a tarball here: (URL) (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) No worries, think I was being dumb - i re-installed it without the ISAPI support ,and it seemd to work just fine :) thanks - Ciaran (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Hi all, I've been having lots of fun with LegOS 0.2.4 (after a month of frustration trying to get it to run), and things have been going smoothly. It is much more stable than 0.2.3 however, I understand some patches have been made to the 0.2.4 code (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Cromok- In the future, direct emails to lugnet.robotics.rcx....ugnet.com. Thanks :) (...) legOS.srec is the file that contains the legOS kernel, which is the "core" of the legOS operating system. (...) When using this, (at least in the HOWTO) it (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) No :) Just making sure that you hadn't. (...) Well, I'd hope it is not the distribution. However, it is possible- RedHat 7.0 uses a "new" compiler version (egcs 2.96) that has been known to cause some problems with certain programs. makelx is (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Sorry to not respond earlier, Niels. It looks like the .rpms I linked to are slightly broken :| If you do not have permission to write to /usr/lib/legOS/ (which is probably the case, given what I know about the default permissions in /usr/lib/ in (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) No, should I? (...) I've installed from the tarball, just as described in the HOWTO. (...) Ok, thanks for your reply. I just have to try some more. Maybe try another linux distribution. Niels (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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(...) I don't recall for certain, but I think that those are hardware specific. You could always try changing them to see what happens :) (Anyone who is more up-to-date on the compiler magic, feel free to correct me.) (...) Unfortunately, there are (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Michael- I seem to recall something about LNP not being completely thread safe. However, there is no documentation on that at all. Stig Neilsson (if he is around) may be a good person to ask, since he has studied the threading model in detail, and (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Ooops. Did not finish my last email before sending it. (...) It sounds like it was built improperly (i.e., without --exec-prefix). Where did you get it from exactly? Luis ---...--- "It's clear to us that Microsoft isn't the competition anymore. They (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Niels- Sorry about the delayed response. Have you modified your Makefile.user at all? It does appear like it is getting called correctly, but I want to be sure. Also, how did you install legOS? From tarball or via the RH 6.x rpms? If you installed (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Haven't heard of anything. Sorry about that. Then again, I run Linux for a reason- it isn't possible for a program to do that to me. On the plus side, unless you recompile your kernel, you shouldn't need Perl for a legOS install anymore. Luis (...) (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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Its been a while since I've posted in here, but I finally started my dissertation on Genetic Programming with Lego Mindstorms, and I'm already (day 1) having problems. I was ruuuunning Legos on a Win2K machine with no problems, however when I (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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I remember reading somewhere a while back, when I first started dabbling with LNP, that LNP handlers on the RCX side were called from interrupts and therefore doing things like memory allocation, msleep, heavy processing, etc. were not good ideas. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
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