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Re: MDP Status
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Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:56:49 GMT
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Allan,
You seem to be assuming that LEGO tossed out the applicant list and pciked
whomever they wanted. Why do you think that?
I hate to say it, but it is obvious that reputation matters. Look at the
original four MUPs. They have fantastic reputations (and justifiably so), and
LEGO chose them for that reason. With big reputations comes the opportunity for
big impact.
Lugnet is a known way to examine reputations, so is reading activity on
legofan. If you have been having a big impact on the community outside of the
commonly used forums, how would LEGO know?
I suspect that LEGO is wiser than you give them credit for, but at 1000 to
100, everyone only has a 1 in 10 chance anyway. We don't know the actual count,
which may be more like 5,000.
I'm sorry you're disappointed before LEGO has even announced the results.
Calling the process unfair before the results are in is probably not wise
though, as you may have just bumped yourself off the list. Who knows?
Play well,
Kev
In lugnet.robotics, Allan Johansen wrote:
>
> "Steve Hassenplug" <steve@teamhassenplug.org> wrote in message
> news:IuH5uw.1GI2@lugnet.com...
> > On Fri, February 10, 2006 2:51 am, Allan Johansen wrote:
> > > "Steve Hassenplug" <steve@teamhassenplug.org> wrote in message
> > > news:IuG0JL.1xIx@lugnet.com...
> > > > In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We did give them a big list of suggestions (many people from LUGNET and
> > > > such),
> > > > but they also want "fresh blood". So, who knows.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > >
> > > I must admit that I'm very disappointed to hear that such a list exist.
> > > Why
> > > should one group of people, who just so happens to be part of a
> > > particular
> > > newsgroup, have an advantage over people who are not members?
> > >
> > > This is not just wrong, this is blatant cheating and favouritism.!
> >
> >
> > It's totally possible, there's someone out there that builds much better
> > robots
> > than I do, and would have been a much better MUP than I am, but they've
> > never
> > posted anything on the internet. However, because I'm part of a
> > particular
> > newsgroup, I have an advantage over people who are not members. So I was
> > selected. Sorry, that's how it is.
> >
> > I don't exactly see how it's "cheating". I just happen to be part of this
> > community.
> >
> >
> > If you had a thousand names, and you had to pick one hundred of them, how
> > would
> > you do it? Do you randomly select one of every ten? You're clearly going
> > to
> > omit some of the more qualified people. Even a long questionare is only
> > going
> > to tell you so much.
> >
> > So, how do you pick them?
> >
> > We recommended a list of very qualified people from around the world to
> > help
> > take the MDP to the next level. To me, building the MDP is about building
> > a
> > foundation for the community. I think a good way to do that is to select
> > people
> > from the community. Of course, you want to add as many "other" people as
> > possible to fill out the list.
> >
> > It's easy to say this is wrong, and unfair, but how would you do it?
> >
> > Steve
>
>
> I would have made a list of the requirements of those who I wanted to be
> part of the project, then I would have cross-reference this list with the
> list of those who have applied, and from that cross-reference I would have
> found those that I needed.
>
> Nothing more - nothing less. I would certainly not start looking for people
> elsewhere.
>
>
>
> Why make a questionnaire if you'd rather go looking for participants on
> Lugnet?
>
>
>
> Perhaps I was a bit harsh in my first message, but I'm feeling very
> disappointed right now. When I signed up for this project, the message from
> TLG was that it needed 100 people chosen from those who had submitted an
> application. What I have now learned, is that they don't really need 100
> people, because some of these places have already been taken by users from
> Lugnet. If TLG had said: "We will select 100 people who have applied - and
> if you want to improve your chances, go to Lugnet and tell Steve a bit about
> yourself" then it would have been ok. But they didn't, they only said they
> people should sign up for the program - nothing more.
>
>
>
> From your message, I get the impression that those who have posted messages
> here have a much improved chance of being admitted to the program - because
> you suggested them to TLG.
>
>
>
> The best comparison I can find is this:
>
>
>
> Imagine you buy a lottery ticked that promises you a 1/100 chance of
> winning.
>
> Now, imagine that you discover that the ticked your neighbour bought
> actually gives him a 1/80 chance of winning - because he happened to know
> one of the guys who runs the lottery.
>
> Wouldn't you feel cheated?
>
>
>
> That's how I'm feeling right now. Not that I ever thought that I had much of
> a chance (I don't have much to offer TLG except my enthusiasm and 2 years as
> a student of computer science - not much compared to many of those who post
> here.), but it's nice to daydream for a little while.
>
>
>
> - Allan (who's just been rudely awakened from his NTX-daydream...)
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| "Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:IuHoup.229C@lugnet.com... (...) No, I'm not thinking that they've completely tossed out the list. But I am thinking that my, already very small chance, just got a whole lot smaller. (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| "Steve Hassenplug" <steve@teamhassenplug.org> wrote in message news:IuH5uw.1GI2@lugnet.com... (...) I would have made a list of the requirements of those who I wanted to be part of the project, then I would have cross-reference this list with the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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