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Re: Why [no single language] is good for Mindstorms
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Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:23:08 GMT
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On Wed, January 25, 2006 4:49 pm, John Hansen wrote:
> In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote:
> > However, I don't
> > agree that either LEGO's RIS software or RoboLab is unstable.
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> Did you use RIS 1.0 and RoboLab 1.0? Did you ever try to use events in RoboLab?
> Here are links to the bugs fixed in service packs just since version 2.5 was
> released.
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> http://www.ceeo.tufts.edu/robolabatceeo/downloads/Service_Pack/servicepack1bugs.asp
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> http://www.ceeo.tufts.edu/robolabatceeo/downloads/Service_Pack/pack12bugs.asp
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> http://www.ceeo.tufts.edu/robolabatceeo/Downloads/Service_Pack/RL254_CPatch.asp
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> > > The latter is far more beneficial to a child's learning experience than the
> > > former.
> >
> > I really want to agree here. But I can't. I'd have to ask exactly what this
> > child is trying to learn.
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> I think it is obvious that the child (or adult) is trying to learn how to write
> programs which make their robot do what they want it to do,
I don't think that's correct. A couple years ago, I went back to college. Not
because I wanted to learn economics, but because I wanted a degree. In order to
get my degree, I had to pass an economics class. So I did.
Just because someone wants to build robots, it should NOT be assumed that they
want to learn to program. Knowing how to program is NOT required for building
robots.
> If they can't figure out how to make
> the robot work because the tool is unintelligible, slow, unstable, and buggy
> then they will quickly move on to something else (or, as is far more likely, to
> an easy to learn and use text-based language and the IDEs which support it).
It may be easier for some people to learn a text-based language, but not
everyone.
If there WAS any type of language that was "best" we wouldn't be having this
discussion.
Steve
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| (...) ...snip... (...) Steve, I totally agree with you. A few remarks: 1. There doesn't exist any non-buggy programming language. 2. There doesn't exist any best language. The reason that different languages exist is that there are different people (...) (19 years ago, 26-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Linux isn't a language. It's an operating system. And nobody I know uses Linux without a graphical user interface. And nobody I know programs in text-based languages at a OS command prompt using VI. Do people write posts to Lugnet by dragging (...) (19 years ago, 25-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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