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Re: Why java is (not) bad for Mindstorms
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On Mon, January 23, 2006 5:37 am, PeterBalch wrote:
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> Kev
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> > My guess is that it is not possible for the official language can be everything
> > to eveyone.
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> Why not?
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> Why couldn't the original RIS language interface have had a button to press
> which converted your program to a textual form like a conventional
> language? And this textual language had all the extra goodies that hackers
> want?
TLG must provide software (firmware) that's "Bullet-Proof" for kids. (most of their
users)
I prefer a faster version of the firmware, which is why I use BrickOS.
These appear mutually exclusive. Is that different from what you're talking about?
Steve
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| (...) One possibility would be to have a compiler that compiles NXT graphical code into ARM code, or NXT executable into ARM code (kind of like a Java just in time compiler). This would bypass the interpreter of the firmware and potentially give you (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) I disagree. The original software produced by LEGO was definitely far from "bullet-proof". Robolab is extremely far from "bullet-proof". It is a mind-set and nothing more which says that kids need the simplicity and hand-holding that a (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| Kev (...) everything (...) Why not? Why couldn't the original RIS language interface have had a button to press which converted your program to a textual form like a conventional language? And this textual language had all the extra goodies that (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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