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Re: Why [no single language] is good for Mindstorms
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In lugnet.robotics, John Hansen wrote:
> Linux isn't a language. It's an operating system. And nobody I know uses Linux
> without a graphical user interface. And nobody I know programs in text-based
> languages at a OS command prompt using VI. Do people write posts to Lugnet by
> dragging and dropping icons representing letters and numbers into a graphical
> editor? No they don't. They do use a graphical user interface (a web browser)
> to type in the text they wish to post. A full-featured integrated development
> environment for text-based languages is a GUI - not a command prompt.
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> > But, if you were going to make a single system for everyone, make it graphic.
>
> All the IDEs I know of for programming LEGO bricks are graphical user
> interfaces. I would wager that most (if not 100% of) NQC, brickOS, and leJOS
> users on Linux use a graphical text editor (with windows and a mouse pointer) to
> write their programs.
Hey! I use Linux every day and I don't use X as a GUI. And I program 8 hours a
day all within vi.
I will admit that I may not be the typical mindstorms programmer. In the end it
really comes down to what folks are most comfortable with. In my case, I am
most effective when using vi. Other folks are used to different types of
editors. Hey!!! That give me a great idea/request. Added vi key bindings to
BricxCC! OK, that's probably not a feature everyone else wants.
I do think that graphical interfaces are the best choice if the goal is to
include as many people as you can.
-Tim
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