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Re: RCX simulator ?
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:00:31 GMT
Original-From: 
Andy Gombos <GOMBOS_2000@stopspammersEARTHLINK.NET>
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Since when can Pov ray render an image of any useful size in realtime, or
something approaching realtime?  I haven't tested on my XP1600+, but my
Duron 800 took a few seconds to render a 640 x 480 image - the minimum I
consider useful for determining what this type of simulation is useful for.
Rendering the movie overnight is a possiblity, but then the day long testing
cycles make it more worth your time to build the actual robot.  Perhaps I
would get finished with my pneumatic walker if such a thing existed. ;)

Actually, there is a program I no longer have a link to (it was in the
legbots group on Yahoo, if you want to search.  Fairly recent)  Anyway, it
modeled the leg dynamics of  a robot in real time, based on the created
terrain, the created robot, and values you input like it's center of
gravity.  Very realistic, and realtime.  However, it used OpenGL for
rendering, and was a polygon based gradiant shaded method (Gurad? I haven't
flipped through my 3d graphics papers in a while).

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Sprouse" <russprouse@adelphia.net>
To: <lego-robotics@crynwr.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: RCX simulator ?


Wow - can you imagine if the simulator could be hooked up with MLCad and
LDraw?  Then you could build a robot with a complex structure, program it,
and have it run around a virtual world, all rendered with POV-Ray!  Man, • who
need reality after that?

  -- Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]On Behalf
Of Stef Mientki
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:22 PM
To: lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: RCX simulator ?


hi Andy,

Andy Gombos wrote:
It can be more work than you think.  I created Simlink
(http://simlink.sourceforge.net) for leJOS,

looks impressive!
I'm thinking about a very look-alike simulator, but then based on the
firmware 2.0, so it can run NQC programs.

  and having a codebase to use was
essential.

What do you mean by a "codebase" ?


  If you choose to show robot actions as well as what the RCX
displays, and motor state and such,

Yes that's quiet what I'm thinking of.

I can help you out.  There are several
robot simulator frameworks, ready to be controlled by an • implementation.

If you could give me some links, I would be very pleased.

best regards,
Stef Mientki



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(...) Yes - it's using ray-traced rendering to get good realism. However, these days you could do pictrures that are nearly as good with fancy OpenGL rendering in realtime. A modern 3D graphics card can easily draw at least a hundred thousand (...) (22 years ago, 14-Sep-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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Wow - can you imagine if the simulator could be hooked up with MLCad and LDraw? Then you could build a robot with a complex structure, program it, and have it run around a virtual world, all rendered with POV-Ray! Man, who need reality after that? (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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