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Re: Bye, bye LUGNET
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lugnet.org.it.itlug
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Tue, 1 Mar 2005 21:32:32 GMT
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WTF?!?!
Are you gonna quit LUGNET Community?!?
SOrry Willy but I don't agree with ya. I got the chance to meet and to know
you in 2003 (remember my oddissey in Bozen and Milan?) and I think you're
one of the smarter soul I've ever met. However this is your decision and so
I respect that... however it's clear that I'll miss you sooooooooooo much
since I consider you my good pal.
I wish you every luck in your life and in your MOCs and I hope we'll meet
again in some Legofest in Italy... remember that "Big Show" my lastest MOC
is waiting for you judgement ;)
Good luck Willy, SEI SEMPRE IL MIGLIORE!
"Willy Tschager" <willy.tschager@tin.it> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:ICoGCE.9DM@lugnet.com...
> Dear friends,
>
> after posting this message • http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/org/ldraw/?n=3467 (the
> post has been canceled in the meantime) containing the following sentence:
>
> "a library with almost 3000 files gives you plenty room for errors (being • the
> maintainer of the mlcad.ini file containing only minifucker parts I know • exactly
> what I'm talkin' about ;-)"
>
> all hell broke loose. I got mail from LUGNET admin Larry Pieniazek telling • me
> that the term "minifucker" is inappropriate for LUGNET and I should "ask" • for a
> cancel. Usually navigating exclusively in lugnet/cad I had no clue of the • new
> posting policy and all that timeout stuff and it took a bit to understand • what
> was going on. I understand that LUGNET is a private owned site and that • Todd has
> all the rights to nominate new admins and change the ToU whenever he • likes; that
> my moral standards may differ from others and that somebody might feel • offended
> by my language and therefore I asked for cancellation - being this the • only way
> to stop the offence. BUT I strongly reject the procedure!
>
> (copy'n'paste from larry's email)
>
> > The model that we use is that we do not cancel things because "we don't • like
> > them" or even because "they are violations". Rather, the model is that • the
> > user must ask for a cancel. Not say to us, "cancel if you want" but
> > explicitly asks for a cancel, because that way we are not exercising
> > editorial control. That is the way that things are done on LUGNET.
> >
> > We want you to explictly ask for a cancel of this post, by referencing • the
> > URL.
> >
> > If you do not ask for a cancel, it is our view that you are in violation
> > of the LUGNET terms of use. It is your choice whether to be in violation • or
> > not, because LUGNET does not censor, but if you choose to remain in
> > violation, we may in turn choose to impose a timeout either of a definite
> > length, or, if it is our belief that you will continue to transgress, • until
> > you decide you wish to be in compliance, acknowledge that the ToU applies
> > to you, and ask for the offending posts to be removed.
>
> In an ironic way someone could ague that the "way" it is done on lugnet is
> indeed in no way a cencorship; it's much more sophisticated: it's the art • of
> auto-critics in a wonderfull george-orwell-style - get me brainwashed! I • do not
> wish to be associated with a community which hasn't the bravery to admit • that
> censorship is applied. I do not accept that a small group of admins has • the
> power to set moral standards, telling me right from wrong and at the same • time
> washing their hands clean. I do no longer agree with the LUGNET terms of • use
> http://www.lugnet.com/admin/terms/agreement and therefore I asked for the
> removal of my membership page as well as the cancellation of the posting
> privileges.
>
> It's time to say goodbye :'-( I had a terrific time on lugnet and enjoyed • every
> single moment. My eternal gratitude goes to the code-wizards and • part-authors
> at lugnet/cad - thanks for all the wisdom and all the new things I learned • from
> you. Thank you also to my Italian friends at lugnet/org/it/itlug. I will • all
> miss you much,
>
> w.
>
> www.holly-wood.it
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