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Re: "jump.cgi" considered harmful ? (1)
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:26:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Mike Stanley writes:
> Dunno what all this means, mostly don't care, but whether it is an IE bug or
> a Windows weirdness or the script being slow, it is real, and it is annoying
> enough that I've completely altered the way I deal with links on LUGNET. I
> can still get a link copied and pasted and trimmed in less than 4 seconds,
> and I get the benefit of not being ticked off waiting for some silly process
> that doesn't obviously benefit me to finish. :/
I, at this client in the UK at a time when no one else is in the office and
the connection SHOULD be lightly loaded (it's all new hardware here but we
go somewhere else before it goes public) don't get quite the same results
Mike does... same browser as before (IE 5.5) same hardware...
I get 2 secs direct and about 6-7 secs via jump.cgi (both the encoded and
nonencoded colon).
I am not going to argue that LUGNET should not do this thing, but I would
appreciate some help in understanding what I need to reconfigure at my end
so that when I am on a slow link I do not get timeouts when jump.cgi is used.
I am not exactly sure how to interpret these (I ain't a network guy) but
thought I'd post them:
C:\WINNT\system32>ping www.bricksmiths.com
Pinging bricksmiths.com [63.217.235.34] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 63.217.235.34: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=105
Reply from 63.217.235.34: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=105
Request timed out.
Reply from 63.217.235.34: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=105
Ping statistics for 63.217.235.34:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 100ms, Maximum = 120ms, Average = 80ms
(I did this one 5 times, always got at least one but never all 4 timed out,
times all in the 100-120ms range)
C:\WINNT\system32>ping www.lugnet.com
Pinging lugnet.com [209.68.63.236] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=236
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=236
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=236
Reply from 209.68.63.236: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=236
Ping statistics for 209.68.63.236:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 100ms, Maximum = 100ms, Average = 100ms
C:\WINNT\system32>tracert www.bricksmiths.com
Tracing route to bricksmiths.com [63.217.235.34]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 172.17.0.2
2 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms 170.10.10.10
3 10 ms 10 ms <10 ms intrtr1.tca.co.uk [193.133.105.80]
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 193.128.72.238
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms gw14.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.191.14]
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ge5-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.188.1]
7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos0-0.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.254.238]
8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ge2-0.cr2.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.254.138]
9 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos0-2.cr2.lnd5.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.254.50]
10 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms so-7-0-0.XR2.LND2.alter.net [158.43.233.246]
11 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms SO-1-0-0.TR1.LND2.Alter.Net [146.188.7.230]
12 80 ms 90 ms 90 ms SO-6-0-0.IR1.DCA4.Alter.Net [146.188.8.169]
13 90 ms 90 ms 80 ms SO-0-0-0.IR1.DCA6.Alter.Net [146.188.13.33]
14 91 ms 90 ms 80 ms 118.at-4-1-0.TR1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.122]
15 80 ms 90 ms 91 ms 287.at-5-0-0.XR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET [152.63.34.21]
16 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms 193.ATM11-0-0.BR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET [146.188.160.73
]
17 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms mae-east.cais.com [192.41.177.85]
18 100 ms * 90 ms ser4-1.core2.mcl.cais.net [209.8.159.26]
19 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms pos1-1.core1.mcl.cais.net [63.216.0.17]
20 91 ms 90 ms 90 ms fe9-0-0.edge1.mcl.cais.net [209.8.159.81]
21 110 ms 100 ms 111 ms fe0-0.dsl2.mcl.cais.net [205.252.5.192]
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 130 ms 110 ms 141 ms 63.217.235.34
Trace complete.
(I did this one a few times, got very similar times in each position, always
got a time out on hop 22)
C:\WINNT\system32>tracert www.lugnet.com
Tracing route to lugnet.com [209.68.63.236]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 172.17.0.2
2 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms 170.10.10.10
3 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms intrtr1.tca.co.uk [193.133.105.80]
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 193.128.72.238
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms gw14.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.191.14]
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ge5-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.188.1]
7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos0-2.cr1.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.254.246]
8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ge2-0.cr2.lnd4.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.254.138]
9 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms pos1-0.cr2.lnd5.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.254.249]
10 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms so-7-0-0.XR2.LND2.alter.net [158.43.233.246]
11 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms SO-1-0-0.TR1.LND2.Alter.Net [146.188.7.230]
12 90 ms 91 ms 80 ms SO-6-0-0.IR1.DCA4.Alter.Net [146.188.8.169]
13 90 ms 90 ms 80 ms SO-0-0-0.IR1.DCA6.Alter.Net [146.188.13.33]
14 90 ms 90 ms 90 ms 118.at-4-1-0.TR1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.122]
15 91 ms 90 ms 90 ms 287.at-5-0-0.XR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET [152.63.34.21]
16 90 ms 100 ms 91 ms 193.ATM6-0.GW3.PIT1.ALTER.NET [152.63.37.1]
17 100 ms 90 ms 100 ms pair-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.48.162]
18 100 ms 90 ms 100 ms 192.168.1.4
19 100 ms 90 ms 100 ms lugnet.com [209.68.63.236]
Trace complete.
++Lar
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| (...) Right, well, I am a network guy, so perhaps I can help to enlighten a bit... (...) Well. 100-120ms seems like a lot to me, but then, we have no idea what kind of connection you're sitting behind, and I've become accustomed to rather larger (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| (...) at a solid 1.2mb over my ADSL connection, with most websites popping up near instantly, the way they used to at the office before Napster killed our DS-3. Win98 SE IE 5.5 Colon about 4 seconds to get to the bricksmiths page encoded colon about (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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