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Re: Saw the movie today! (bit OT)
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Dave Schuler writes:
> Speaking as an outsider, since I haven't read more than a few pages of
> Potter (though I'm casually familiar with the overall plot), I would suggest
> that one of Rowlings' greatest virtues is that the vast story she's crafted
> is one of very, very few 20th century works of Western fantasy that isn't
> heavily derivative of Tolkien, the Arthurian myth, or Greco-Roman mythology.
I'm an outsider, too, but if you remember what was on the children's fantasy
list 20 years ago, there were a tremendous number of books about witchcraft,
not derivative of those things either. Susan Cooper doesn't count (too
Arthurian) but there were John Bellairs, Mary Norton, Edith Nesbit, Edward
Eager, all writing about kids and witchcraft without those things. You might
call it the Victorian Witchcraft tradition. It's really a rich mine already,
as librarians are happy to point out (to the delight of pestered parents).
Not to mention Ursula K. Le Guin!
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| (...) That's not a bad point, and I should have specified "major 20th century works of Western fantasy. All of these Victorian Witchcraft writers played their part, but honestly none can be said to have had the impact of Arthur, Gandalf, or Harry. (...) (23 years ago, 5-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| (...) Speaking as an outsider, since I haven't read more than a few pages of Potter (though I'm casually familiar with the overall plot), I would suggest that one of Rowlings' greatest virtues is that the vast story she's crafted is one of very, (...) (23 years ago, 4-Dec-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.harrypotter)
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34 Messages in This Thread: ![Saw the movie today! -Huw Millington (10-Nov-01 to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.harrypotter)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Saw the movie today! -Simon Bennett (12-Nov-01 to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.harrypotter)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Saw the movie today! -Richard Noeckel (12-Nov-01 to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.harrypotter)](/news/x.gif)
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