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| | | [moved from lugnet.starwars] (...) I just stumbled onto mp3 music. My 4.6Gig spare drive has about 400Meg left... I wonder how hard it would be to create an mp3-CD player? Put together a CD-ROM drive, DOS-on-a-chip, a DSP, and some custom playback (...) (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | (...) You've seen the Diamond Rio? (URL) not a CD player, but rather has 32MB of flash. Not nearly as much as a CD of course, but still. (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Lee Jorgensen
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| | | | | | | go to (URL) IS a CD-MP3 player ... plays CD-R's and CD-RW's with MP3s in the root directory. The only drawback is that it's SRP is 299.95 USD Also, if you go to (URL) they have a hardware section that will list different options available. They also (...) (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thanks for pointing this out. I now know what I want for Christmas. :) Besides the LEGO, of course. Steve (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | (...) I thought about that. Didn't realize you could load tracks into a RAM for offline playback. If the Diamond Rio continues to survive prosecution and persecution, it could be the killer app for a consumer-level internet. Steve (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | (...) Only 32MB?? I thought it could hold an hours worth of music? All mp3's I have are about a meg a minute! That means it can only hold about a half an hour of music on it! Jeff (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) That's what the specs say. And yeah, I'd heard that too. I dunno. (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Chris Moseley
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| | | | | | Matthew Miller wrote in message ... (...) MP3 offers variable compression. It goes down to 16kbit/s, at which rate 32MB lasts 16ks, or 3 and a half hours. Sounds like telephone music, but what the heck. Moz (26 years ago, 26-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) The Mp3-man, which is a similar device, comes with 64 meg. just a tidbit. jasper (26 years ago, 3-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) A friend just told me that it comes with 32MB built in, and comes with a 32MB card. Which is even cooler, 'cause you could have a small collection of those. (26 years ago, 3-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, cool. Especially since they're probably using either a propietary format (which means basically it's a waste of money to get cards) or a very compatible format, of which probably even larger versions of memory are availbale. If you know (...) (26 years ago, 3-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: 6 months! —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) Well, Diamond has already released a portable mp3 player that contains no moving parts. Kinda like a Walkman. Stores mp3's in RAM. I know of a couple of efforts to produce an mp3 cd player. (...) IMO there are no gray areas for personal use. (...) (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) Just as long as no one else is listening to your CD back at home. :) (26 years ago, 25-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: 6 months! —Terry Keller
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| | | | | (...) Me too! Now I just wish my 20x drive would work right for ripping. So far, I only have been able to get the double-speed drive to rip. (...) Sounds like an interesting idea. I like the idea about an in-car player I saw. Potentially able to (...) (26 years ago, 26-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Plextor is the only way to go for high speed audio extraction. I'd rather have my 12-20Plex than any other CD on the market, except for maybe the new UW 40Plex. (26 years ago, 26-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: 6 months! —Chris Moseley
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| | | | | Steve Bliss wrote in message <365c2176.10121201@l...et.com>... (...) Uh, done that. A spare 486-100 with hacked ROM-disk Linux fits nicely into the spare space in an external 5 inch drive bay. Or you could go the expensive path and put a biscuit (...) (26 years ago, 26-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: 6 months! —David Johnston
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| | | | | I read the thread about the mp3's, and a few weeks ago I stumbled across this site: (URL) gives you a description of how to build a MOBILE mp3 player, for instance for in your car! dave. (26 years ago, 26-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Or go to (URL) for information about the commercial version. I hope these guys make it, but they should be pushing it as the in-car computer for geeks! Seriously. Steve (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: 6 months! —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | (...) But if you have not BOUGHT the music yet, do you even have a right to duplicate for personal use? I'd check the warranty on the places you are getting these. If they are non-copyrighted, you're fine. Otherwise, I would guess that you do not (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | (...) No, of course you don't. (...) Nah, you really do have the right to make copies for your personal use. Furthermore, if they try to deny it, there's all sorts of shady issues. Like, do you have the right to copy digital music to a ram buffer (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | (...) (said like the Great Gildersleeve...) Oooo! Isn't that sneaky... From Tom McDonald Anti-spam block in place. (URL) what you can, but behave yourself. We'll have more, right after this. (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) :) Well, it's not sneaky really, it just points out that legal wording usually has no clue about the way technology works. Like the son of CDA law that prohibits Bad Things from being distributed to Innocent Little Children via "the World Wide (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | Weren't Newsgroups and mailing lists on of the main focuses? Does that mean the law missed those? Now That's Comedy! Jeff (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) Depends. If you purchase/pay a fee to a site or store which is licensed to dispense music 'by the song', then there's no issue. If I go to a website which licenses music from artists specifically for downloading, I believe you get to store it (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Lee Jorgensen
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| | | | | Why be worried? We don't have door-to-door Compu-Cops ... (1) Regardless ... I've made my whole collection of CD's into MP3's ... Though normally only the 'decent' songs that I actually listen to and like. Now all I have to get is the Panasonic (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Hrmmm. I'm in the market for a 50+" TV right now. Does that mean I could justify taking a half dozen out of the store at night to "evaluate" as long as I return the ones I don't like then pay for the one I keep? (...) I wouldn't bother with it (...) (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) Well, there's a key difference with software, that makes all such analogies silly: you can make an infinite number of copies at no cost. It's more like: you have a Star Trek replicator at home, and you take from the store the (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, I know the typical rationalization. The reality, though, is that someone who pirates software (or music) is taking something they don't own without the owner's permission. If I could steal 50" tv's from Circuit City down the street from (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) Sure, but you at least admit that they're different. I think it makes sense to examine how laws _should_ apply to intellectual property in the digital age, rather than just blindly extending physical property laws via a somewhat stretched (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Me too, but I just installed BeOS Release 4 and it is way too cool to not lose sleep over. :) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) ooh, now that's back to fun. I'm still waiting for BeOS to have all the right support needed to run on my Libretto.... I've seen release 3 -- how different is 4? (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Well, I don't have much to compare it with. I had 3.2 on a Mac here in the office until today, but only for a week or so. I know they must have improved video support for this 8600, though, because now I can run at 1024x768x8x75 whereas before (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: 6 months! —Matthew Miller
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| | | | (...) Or more exactly, allowed by the copyright holder -- Public Enemy was distributing their own songs on their web site, and were made to stop. (26 years ago, 17-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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