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		Re: The War That Never Ends
Many thanks, Lar! That's the stuff. And I used to read some of that mag online too... Yeah, social engineering is a big gap in security -- and always will be, that's why it almost always works. My information belongs to me, and in the EU AND the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote (...) I will grant that the threat isn't demonstrable, except of course, the carnage perpetrated on 9-11. The problem is that the potential threat is so horrific that if it isn't pre-emptively (...) (21 years ago, 3-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) Well, no, the Barbary Pirates were like cockroachs. They hung around for quite some time despite numerous people trying to wipe them out. Once the Pax Brittanica began they were finally surpressed (another parallel for your example with the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) There is zero proof Iraq was harboring anyone plotting moves against the U.S. AQ, in particular, is supra-national. Cells may exist in as many as 60 countries including the U.S. Are we going to go after them all, John? (...) Freedom from being (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) (URL) AQ, in particular, is supra-national. Cells may exist in as many as 60 (...) Certainly some. And convince and assist the other countries to purge them by themselves. (...) Really? When were you summarily investigated and databased? (...) (...) (21 years ago, 2-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The War That Never Ends
(...) It is my understanding that the money for AQ is known to come from SA, it is not conjecture at this point (if it ever was). The question is: does the SA govt. condone or even know about this activity? Obviously, attacking SA is out of the (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
(...) And so there goes the myth presented by the anti-capitalists, these big fat cat tycoons light their cigars with $100 bills while their employees all slave away in sweat shops. Poor economic conditions in Iraq are the fault of the west? This is (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: For Sean...
(...) Real baseball players stand out in the field. Reggie Jackson would turn trying to catch even the simpliest routine fly ball into an adventure. (...) Give the batters a mound - we have a mound gap! (...) First incarnation was terrible, the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Sports scores redux( Re: For Sean...
(...) I just carried on with the thread... :-) (...) Ouch! That hurt! :-P But yes, you have a point. I suppose o-t.d isn't the proper place for them... it's not a topic that "fits in" with the rest. (...) Who told you I don't participate in soccer? (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Guess who's next?
(...) ...while troops were busy toppling statutes for the benefit of the world's media. Scott A (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) They were bad. Do I celebrate anyone's death? No. Do I put "..seriously thought that the death of those two rat b***ards..." No. I think that justice would be served if the couple in St Kitts were put to death, but I would not celebrate it. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: A small rant...
(...) To reply (again...) From the Democratic Underground website (partisan, I know, but if the points are valid, who cares where the source is from?) " For some time, many on the Left have been using a working hypothesis about the invasion of Iraq. (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Tax day, give me a break
(...) Although income tax is comparable with your own [when NI is included], in the UK we are taxed at 40% of GDP. But the difference is cultural too; we don't mind paying tax if we get good public services in return... we want education and health (...) (21 years ago, 16-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
(...) As usual, John -- not too much information, have you? We wouldn't want to sully your political perspective with anything like facts or meaningful conjecture... Something like $80 - $100 million were spent on the Clinton Whitewater and "Oval (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Let's beat him with 700 clubs
(...) I definitely agree that people can listen to whatever they want (though it's a shame that Pat doesn't feel the same way). However, I question whether he (as head of the Christian Coalition (of the willing?) truly has no power. Within the last (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
(...) It is -- thanks for recognizing that. Too bad some of the rest of you are so mentally challenged. (...) Where is the QUESTION? A declarative statement is not a question. You stated: "I believe that the perceived threat was never from the Iraqi (...) (21 years ago, 14-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		The Smell of Napalm in the Morning (was Re: Horrifying stories from Iraq)
(...) ---...--- "Powell deals Syria new warning" (URL) Powell said,] "We have designated Syria for years as a state that sponsors terrorism, and we have discussed this with the Syrians on many occasions." ---...--- 'Smoking gun' may not affect (...) (21 years ago, 13-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Genocide and terrorism (Was: SW <-> Russia conspiracy)
(...) Libertarianism doesn't speak to it directly except to say that if you feel you're your brother's keeper, that is fine, keep on keeping, but that does not mean that everyone has to contribute to support your sense of obligation. Hence, my taxes (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
(...) Thanks for the info, I greatly appreciate it. (...) Hence my doubt regading this one: colony refers to settlement, or pure governance? I'll go with the first, in order to restrict the options. (...) You said nothing about independant nations (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
(...) <snip> Funny you should mention one of the biggest 'reactionary measures' your country ever had as your example. WWII was going on well before Dec 1941, and yet the bombing of Pearl Harbour is the day that will 'live in infamy'. Not the (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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