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Re: Family values?
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Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:54:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> we're talking about a man who has been
> deceived--deliberately or not--into accepting financial and moral
> responsibility for a deadbeat's offspring.
I think that something we've been forgetting is that the "deadbeat" might very
well be the victim too. There is no knowing that he knows there is a child in
the world of his genetic lineage.
Just a point,
Chris
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| He's not much of a victim - it was HIS choice to take the risk of causing a pregnancy (even IF birth control methods were used) - no sympathy from me there. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) More specifically, why should the child be given greater consideration than a more-or-less arbitrarily chosen man? Remember--in this thought experiment we're not discussing a man who has agreed knowingly to act as the father-figure for the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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