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Re: Christian morality (cont)
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Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:28:54 GMT
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Dave Schuler wrote in message ...
It has been demonstrated that an embryo can be implanted into the
abdomenal cavity of a male mammal and brought to term through the
application of hormone therapies and medical supervision.  The experiment I
read about involved a male baboon and took place over a decade ago, but the
fetus was aborted before bringing it to full gestation.  In addition, it is
also true than men can be made to bear milk, again through the use of
hormone therapy, but this exacts a heavy price upon the man's health and
physiology.  With future developments, presumably, it will be possible for • a
man (or a woman lacking a uterus) to carry a child to term and to provide
milk for it as an infant.

Dave, I don't think this has any bearing on Steve's original statement,
which was that

Put another way, heterosexual sex brings with it the
possibility of procreation (however remote, or blocked
by contingent factors it is); homosexual sex cannot do
so even in principle.

The male animal bearing a fetus that you speak of was not a result of
homosexual sex, nor could it have been. Since homosexual sex can only
involve just eggs or just sperms, ain't no way it's going to result in an
egg and a sperm getting together.

Not that I agree with argument Steve makes (that homosexual sex is immoral)
based on that fact, still it's a fact.

Kevin



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  Re: Christian morality (cont)
 
(...) Actually, I think it was quite on topic. Dave! was just trying to expose the precise line at which point it becomes immoral according to the proposed moral law. For example, IF (big if) homosexual sex could produce a child, would it then be (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Christian morality (cont)
 
(...) **snip** (...) Well, if you're going to get all technical on me... 8^) I confess I was reading from Larry's statement forward, that there was indeed the medical possibility of a male carrying a child. Put in the terms you revealed to me, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Christian morality (cont)
 
(...) Right. But my thesis is that it is not necessary for an egg and a sperm to get together for a viable embryo to result. Two sperm carry sufficient genetic material to complete the needed chromosomes for a viable embryo, as long as one is (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) It has been demonstrated that an embryo can be implanted into the abdomenal cavity of a male mammal and brought to term through the application of hormone therapies and medical supervision. The experiment I read about involved a male baboon (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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