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Re: Christian morality (cont)
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:07:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Thomas writes:

Put another way, heterosexual sex brings with it the
possibility of procreation (however remote, or blocked
by contingent factors it is); homosexual sex cannot do
so even in principle.

This happens to turn out to not be actually true if one
steps outside the human species. Further it's not true
in principle for humans today, and as medical science
continues to advance, soon it won't be true in actuality.

You won't hear me argue about morality for species other than human beings,
so the first point is irrelevant.  I'm wondering how it isn't true in
principle for humans today, and as medical science continues to advance.
I'd be glad to learn more about that.

  It has been demonstrated that an embryo can be implanted into the
abdomenal cavity of a male mammal and brought to term through the
application of hormone therapies and medical supervision.  The experiment I
read about involved a male baboon and took place over a decade ago, but the
fetus was aborted before bringing it to full gestation.  In addition, it is
also true than men can be made to bear milk, again through the use of
hormone therapy, but this exacts a heavy price upon the man's health and
physiology.  With future developments, presumably, it will be possible for a
man (or a woman lacking a uterus) to carry a child to term and to provide
milk for it as an infant.

     Dave!



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  Re: Christian morality (cont)
 
Dave Schuler wrote in message ... (...) a (...) Dave, I don't think this has any bearing on Steve's original statement, which was that (...) The male animal bearing a fetus that you speak of was not a result of homosexual sex, nor could it have (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Christian morality (cont)
 
"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:G5MIGo.8H@lugnet.com... (...) I (...) the (...) is (...) a (...) I'll wait for Mr. Pieniazek to weigh in - to see if he was thinking along the same lines - before I respond. Thanks for your (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Christian morality (cont)
 
Mr. Pieniazek, Thanks for your interest. You recently interacted with an argument of mine as follows: (...) You won't hear me argue about morality for species other than human beings, so the first point is irrelevant. I'm wondering how it isn't true (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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