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Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
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Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:28:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Andrew Krug writes:
> I didn't even know there had been a "Fantastic Four" movie? What year did
> that come out? If it was anytime before 1990 I can only imagine how bad it
> must have been.
It was never officially released, I beleive it got tabled after post-produciton
was completed because, well, it was so heinous that parties feared it would do
nothing but further hurt the image of Marvel properties as movie subjects.
Which was probably a pretty good call.
> As you said Marvel has never had great luck in terms of
> movies but it seems as if they may have finally cracked that nut! Good news
> for comics fans everywhere. And hopefully as a result of the X-Men success
> Marvel will make enough money to avoid doing poor quality movies again. They
> got some pretty big name stars in this movie (such as Jean Luc Picard).
Yeah! It was great to see two Shakespearean actors as Xavier and Magneto. It
let them bring a real three-dimensionality to the characters. I found
MacKellan's Magneto to be one of the best things about the film.
> Speaking of Adamantium my favorite poster I have shows Captain America and
> Wolverine slugging it out and claws meet shield and the sparks are flying!!!!
> This is from a Captain America cover picture from the late 1980's I believe
> (and if you really want the number I'll dig through my binders full of comics
> and find it for you). This battle could definetly be cool on the big screen.
Nice! I know they've gone toe-to-toe before, and I think it was always decided
that Cap's sheild is stronger.
> I do find it strange that there is no mention of a superhero community outside
> of the mutants in X-Men.
I was discussing this with my roommate, and I think he was on the right track:
It's easier to understand "normal" people's fear of mutants with weird powers
when they haven't become acclamated to things like the FF fighting Galactus in
downtown Manhattan. It makes the issue seem more black and white- which is, I
think, why I found that aspect easier to buy into in the movie than I ever have
in the comic itself.
> I will read Kingdom Come (despite the fact it's DC). I'm not anti-DC I just
> never got into them as much. Although I did used to love the
> old "Superfriends" cartoon.
Kingdom Come treats the heroes more as archetypes than as specific characters,
which is good- for example, they never say whether the Flash is Wally West or
Barry Allen, etc. He's just The Flash. I'm pretty sure they also never say if
Green Lantern is specifically Hal Jordan. Anyway, all you really need to know
is the kind of stuff everyone does- Superman is Clark Kent and dates Lois Lane,
Batman's parents were killed, etc. Real basic stuff.
Of course, there's a lot of detail in each panel to keep all the real die-hard
fans busy. :D
eric
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