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Subject:	Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
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Date:	Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:17:37 GMT
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Eric While I hate to continue this discussion on Comic Books here, for lack of anywhere else to go I will. I am well aware that Captain America is hardly "non-violent", yet I can also say that in the many years I've been reading his comics I can think of maybe 1 or 2 times he has actually killed anyone! He usually avoids extreme violence (aka. DEATH) whenever he can and usually goes to great pains to make sure he doesn't kill anyone (often hurting himself and his cause). I think most kids today (read that teens or whatever age comic book buyers usually are) think that is just a little too quaint and not very exciting. All the American Flag, Mom, and Apple Pie stuff in the Captain Amercia comics just doesn't seem as appealing to kids as some dark brooding hero with lots of physcological problems (like Wolverine). That's not to say that those comics are bad, just not my cup of tea. I'm also not saying that comics shouldn't be violent, but my idea of violence is more like punching, wrestling, and good hand to hand fighting, not Punisher style shoot everyone in sight. I just think with all the violence in the world today comic books could probably afford to be a little more creative in how they use their violence considering kids are supposed to be the major readers of comic books (although I suppose you and I are proof that isn't always the case). As an Army Officer I certainly have no problem with violence when needed but as a father I don't know how much of that we need to expose our kids to when not necessary. Just one guy's point of view though. I haven't seen any of the Kingdom Come stuff yet, perhaps I'll have to check it out. Thanks for your thoughts. Andy

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		Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
(...) The Frank Miller treatment of Captain America in the Daredevil story arc in issues 227-233 (I think--I'll double check, if you'd like) creates as psychologically interesting a character as any of the Wolverine stuff I've read, if only because (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

		Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
(...) That's what lugnet.off-topic.debate is for. :D (...) Ah. Well, ok, that is very different from "non-violent". Even so, there are certainly comics that are very violent (see Garth Ennis' current 12-part Punisher storyline)- but they actually (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
Just to help you out a bit, the least expensive course for you would be to get the Kingdom Come graphic novel by Mark Waid with art by Alex Ross (my hero). It's available pretty cheap on amazon.com. The story basically deals with a future earth (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
(...) Dude, I hate to break it to you, but Cap doesn't just hide behind that sheild like a shirking violet. He has been known to (gasp) hit people with it- even throw it at them! That's really no less violent than X-Men. (...) Unfortunately, the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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