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Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
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Just to help you out a bit, the least expensive course for you would be to
get the Kingdom Come graphic novel by Mark Waid with art by Alex Ross (my
hero). It's available pretty cheap on amazon.com.

The story basically deals with a future earth over-run by super-powered
beings who fight just to fight, and not for a cause, like the heroes of
yesteryear. All the old-school heroes of the DC world come back to set
things right... and a bunch of other stuff happens that I won't spoil for
you. ;^)

You should also look for Marvels, by Kurt Busiek and art again by Alex Ross
(my hero).

Marvels starts in the 30's, with the appearance of the Human Torch, and it
follows many of the Marvel superheroes from the perspective of one newspaper
photographer. Innovative and well done. Check it out.

~Mark (Alex Ross is my hero)

--
Mark's Lego Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego

From: "Andy Krug" <akrug@oz-online.net>
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Newsgroups: lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:17:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle
World)

Eric

While I hate to continue this discussion on Comic Books here, for lack of
anywhere else to go I will.  I am well aware that Captain America is
hardly "non-violent", yet I can also say that in the many years I've been
reading his comics I can think of maybe 1 or 2 times he has actually killed
anyone!  He usually avoids extreme violence (aka. DEATH) whenever he can and
usually goes to great pains to make sure he doesn't kill anyone (often hurting
himself and his cause).  I think most kids today (read that teens or whatever
age comic book buyers usually are) think that is just a little too quaint and
not very exciting.  All the American Flag, Mom, and Apple Pie stuff in the
Captain Amercia comics just doesn't seem as appealing to kids as some dark
brooding hero with lots of physcological problems (like Wolverine).  That's
not to say that those comics are bad, just not my cup of tea.

I'm also not saying that comics shouldn't be violent, but my idea of violence
is more like punching, wrestling, and good hand to hand fighting, not Punisher
style shoot everyone in sight.  I just think with all the violence in the
world today comic books could probably afford to be a little more creative in
how they use their violence considering kids are supposed to be the major
readers of comic books (although I suppose you and I are proof that isn't
always the case).  As an Army Officer I certainly have no problem with
violence when needed but as a father I don't know how much of that we need to
expose our kids to when not necessary.  Just one guy's point of view though.
I haven't seen any of the Kingdom Come stuff yet, perhaps I'll have to check
it out.  Thanks for your thoughts.

Andy



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(...) <snip> (...) Then you should probably know that Ross actually wrote the basic story behind Kingdom Come. In fact, the reason he refused to take part in the sequel "Kingdom" event (written wholly by Mark Waid) is that "Kingdom" ignored some of (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World)
 
Eric While I hate to continue this discussion on Comic Books here, for lack of anywhere else to go I will. I am well aware that Captain America is hardly "non-violent", yet I can also say that in the many years I've been reading his comics I can (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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