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| | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Patrick Baumgardner
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| | | | | (...) $599 check around (...) neccesary (...) VHS, (...) If you can't see the difference on an NTSC TV you should have your eyes examined! (...) DVD's that are released currently are for NTSC format. Viewing them on an HDTV will make no difference (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | (...) order (...) does (...) them (...) If you have a good VCR (a SuperVHS for example) they picture is the same, as DVD must be forced to NTSC. (...) The (...) While there are some DVD's that are NTSC by default any disc that is Digitally Mastered (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) Not after ten watchings. Even a nice gentle VCR running VHS will degrade the tape perceptably after ten watchings. Not if exposed to even slight magnetic fields over the long haul, like those caused by the speakers in your home theater. The (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | (...) fizz. (...) I mentioned that DVDs don't wear out before. My statement was meant as though, if both are brand new they will be the same. It is true however that only DVD retains that quality. (...) :-) -Lord Insanity (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Perhaps the biggest benefit of DVD outside of the picture/audio quality is the additional material you get on the better discs. I'm not talking about the extra 9 minutes of awful footage from that awful ID4 movie, but the commentary from (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | (...) them (...) the (...) Yes by quite a bit. (...) CDs were designed by the record industry as a cheaper alternative to records. (FYI CD-Rs were originally on the first cd players but were not allowed to be imported into the USA untill the past (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Bryan Hodges
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| | | | | | (...) Actually, to my knowledge, CDs were not designed by the record industry, they were designed by Philips, and they were not designed to hold just music, but that happened to be a good use for them. (...) I really don't see that the record (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Really, just a couple? Geez, it's going to take me 35-40 discs, just for the LPs. That's ignoring all the CDs I've got. But maybe you go for more compression than I do... (...) ... yep, definitely more compression ... (...) mp3.com is already (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) Um, the record company is in it to make a profit, and so is the merchant, that's why they don't pass them on to you at cost. The record company keeps the nice fat profits from all those CDs, and makes much better margin than they used to when (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | (...) DVDs (...) lofty (...) that's (...) That's not what he is stating (...) much (...) The Obvious is that the prices are artifically inflated. There are all sorts of bueracratic (spelling?) reasons that are nothing more than hot air. Without (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Sign me up as delusional, I guess. Except under very tightly controlled and special conditions, an across the board price of 2 cents is just not doable by TLC and if you think it is, I posit that you just may not know everything there is to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | (...) 1000 (...) Just you. :-) B ruce S chlickbernd (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | | (...) Considering that actuall cost (including packaging etc.) is less than one tenth of a cent per "brick" when produced in the quanities TLG does, I disagree. It would probably be even less if it wern't for the high quality and tolerence levels (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) complex (...) tenth (...) First, cite your .1 cent figure, please. Do you have access to TLC tooling and raw material costs? What's the burden rate or are they using fully allocated costing, and how much of the R&D budget is attributtable to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) What about Brian Setzer and the semi-inimitible Bon Scott? 8^) Besides which, I don't think the charming Ms. Spears is any less talented than, say, Rick Astley or MC Hammer, both of whom were dubiously quite popular in a glowing testimonial of (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Hey, I LIKE Brian Setzer, have for years... It's not my thesis that all artists with BS for initials make dreck, (or all Lugnetters, for that matter, (hi Bruce!)) just that I found it funny in this case. At least Britney's easy on the eyes. If (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) But it's what I'm stating! The manufacturer is not obligated to lower prices to you after initial costs are recouped. (...) You call it artifically inflated, they call it profit margin. If "profit" is a dirty word to you, then tough. It's (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | (...) to (...) Without (...) You are missing the point entirely. It is ILLEGAL for them to artifically inflate prices in the USA. That is what they are doing under some gobbledegook reasons that are merely to prevent them from being prosicuted. Also (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) gobbledegook (...) Let's not go down the tiresome "anti-monopoly tirade" route again, shall we? Been there, done that, got the tee shirt. MP3 will lower CD prices a lot better than any smelly old government lawsuit anyway... oh, and by the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh-so-true. I have enough music right now to last over 40 straight hours of music, and that's not counting the CDs I had before (but I don't listen to them so much anymore). Of course I hear much more than 40 hours straight at a time, with (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | (...) ROTFLMAO Windows is one of the worst programs to ever hit the PC. The fact that it took off is testament to the blatant stupidity of the average consumer. I would be more than willing to spend twice as much on an OS that is reliable. Oh wait, (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) Worst in what way? Popularity? Identifiability? Public recognition? Its near-iconic status in the computer industry? My Windows usage primarily involves word processing, personal finance, the web, and low-key graphics applications. Since (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | (...) Yes, those silly consumers don't know enough to make sure that their computer comes with a programming language, or kernel sources. As a result they can't fix things that are broken, and that makes it a sucky computer that they bought. Sheesh, (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | Your ability to completely miss points continues to amaze me! (...) took (...) Two things: 1. What does this have to do with the argument? yes, Windows may not be perfect, but it's what people use. The argument is that the government meddling is (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Because you like to hear your self talk remember... follow-ups to lugnet.off-topic.fun (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Oh, I stopped making that claim MONTHS ago. :-) ++Lar (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | (...) sorts (...) a (...) gobbledegook (...) not (...) ??? They can charge whatever they want as long as the entire industry doesn't collude to control those prices. Supply and demand. On CDs, the price was originally high because there were so few (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | (...) That is what they are doing. Hence the artifical inflating prices statement. (...) simply (...) just (...) costs (...) CD (...) As i stated most artists make next to nothing off CD sales anyway. This is the reason most artists don't care, (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) You're misunderstanding the nature of collusion; you and I aren't colluding to post to Lugnet, but we're both doing it. Likewise the recording industry isn't conspiring to keep CD prices high, but prices are high nonetheless. (...) Sure it (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Oops. That should probably read "If I were selling something @ $10 per..." Dave! (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Toki Barron
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think I did read something about CDs being marketed by about 5 or so companies, and the did have agreements in place to sell CDs at certain prices. Dave, have you been to a National Record Mart since you've been out here in Pittsburgh? CDs (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) The only Best Buy I've checked is in the South Hills, though I've checked another bunch of stores throughout town and the North Hills. Best Buy had the best buys, but the selection wasn't as exhaustive as I'd've liked. I was grossly (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —John DiRienzo
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| | | | | | "Mike Petrucelli" <lordinsanity@usa.net> wrote in message news:FxApBH.4Ix@lugnet.com... (...) doesn't (...) statement. (...) make (...) they'd (...) to the (...) a (...) their (...) the (...) is the (...) don't (...) peices at (...) a (...) studio, (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Star Wars on DVD —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) I'm not unaware that you're calling down "the law". In fact, I'm pretty sure it already happened. I just don't have any respect for that ideology. You can call whatever you like "artificial" and get listeners. If you still think "profit" is (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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