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| | | | | 1. Vs. Original Sin —Erik Olson
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| | | | | (...) I don't recall such a thing in any other creed. Is this article of faith meant to quibble with or clarify Paul? Not sure myself whether Paul is as important to Mormons, as he is to say Lutherans or Baptists (who make a very big deal out of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: 1. Vs. Original Sin —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Paul is very important to us. However, for all his enthusiasm, he was only human. He certainly became very excited about some things, and much of what he said is doctorine to us, but he wasn't terribly clear about many things as well. Erm, so (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | 2. The Good Life —Erik Olson
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| | | | | (...) The Good Life. Aristotle said the good life was to become happy by pursuing the best goals, that is, to excel in whatever you are capable of. To be the best example of what you are. That you are the purpose of your own life, there is no higher (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Erik Olson
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| | | | | (...) Well, I guess it was a troll. But I left off the really bad names! I don't think Christianity has much power to form character traits like intellectual curiosity, productivity, attentiveness, and hipness, so more second-generation Christians (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | (...) Hipness? I'd say that's a worldly attribute, de-emphasized by our parents' (any given parents') generations. But I digress. Intellectual curiosity, attentiveness, and especially productivity are promoted by several churches, including my own. (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Oh my. I completely spaced out reading this the first time around. I have a profound and irrational dislike for homosexuals in general, due to a harsh experience I had with a gay boss and his mate during my high school job. I recognize this (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) How differently do you imagine that you would feel today if you had never had that harsh experience with your gay boss and his mate? (...) I believe that God created bisexuality, homosexuality, and sexuality in animals and humans for a very (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) d'Oh -- I forgot an "a". That should say: I believe that God created bisexuality, homosexuality, and asexuality in animals and humans for a very good reason. --Todd (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) I would probably view homosexuals on a more even keel. I might, by way of example, compare it to my feelings towards Muslims. Having worked with a few exceptionally awesome folks who happened to be Islamic, my POV towards Muslims in general is (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | (...) Note: I picked Muslims as a category for discussion purposes only, because I am not a Muslim and I was discussing how I felt towards people who are different from me in terms of lifestyle. *sigh* Maybe I should stay out of these debates while (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) They're the proverbial exceptions that prove the rule? --Todd (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | (...) Erm, which rule? I used the example of how I feel towards Muslims as an example of my typical reaction. As a rule, I try very hard to not judge people based upon categories. My feelings towards homosexuality is an exception, caused by a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) There's an old phrase -- "That's the exception that proves the rule." Example: "All tough cops have moustaches." "All?" "Yeah, all. Well, except for this one cop I talked to once -- he didn't have a moustache... But all the others do!" "He was (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) [snip examples of stereotyping] (...) I thought that old saying came from English grammar, where every rule has any number of exceptions. The exceptions don't invalidate the rule, they're just exceptions. Personally, I think the 'old phrase' (...) (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | (...) *sigh* again. c/judge people/judge people negatively/ Today is not my day. I'm having a Bad Typing Day. As a result, I threatened to wage war against Larry's house and sell his family into slavery, and I flamed homosexuals while defending (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) I believe it is fairly low... in the US and many other countries, but not all. I have read that one of the reasons for the high rate of HIV in Africa and some other third world countries is that heterosexual anal intercourse is much more (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I really enjoyed the movie _Chasing_Amy_, especially what Alyssa had to say in the bar scene early in the movie. --Todd (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) <mild spoiler alert> The first part of that movie was great but the big denoument where the roomie tried to make a case for a three way struck me as a bit off. Spoiled what was otherwise a good movie for me. (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oh. See, there I go assuming again. Thanks for clearing that up, Kevin. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | Massive snip just so I can pick on one point. (...) Sexuality only, or are you saying that ANY activity carried out purely for pleasure is irrational. I have an issue either way but let's be clear first. (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) anything (...) factors (...) Any activity done for pleasure is irrational. Or is pleasure rational? I contend that it is not -- emotion and bias play too big of a role for pleasure to be wrapped up in a tidy package. It's part of the human (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) I would contend that to throw out all emotions as not suitable for a rational being is to go too far. Emotions serve at least two good purposes: - they're inputs. They give us valuable insight into our subconscious, as well as insight into our (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | (...) Rational. (...) Irrational. *Why* is it enjoyable? *Why* is it good? Is it or is it not necessary? These questions can't be adequately and rationally explained, at least not with modern medicine. And I'm willing to bet <RUMMAGE SRC="POCKETS" (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) How about activity done for pain? --Todd (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | (...) What, like my job? :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 3. What exactly is bigotry? More definitions. Trolling admitted. —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Are you refering to reading an Ayn Rand book? Personally, I'd rather read an atlas. *Shrug* whatever. Steve (25 years ago, 13-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | 4. Why are some nonbelievers admirable people? —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) I'm not going to debate this, because there have been a lot. Just like the Christian has to ask "Why are some atheists, Mormons and Jews decent people?" (DUCK NOW!) the atheist wonders "Why are some Christians good people?" The reality is most (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: 4. Why are some nonbelievers admirable people? —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | (...) Don't rule out the possibility that he may be *on* something. But I take it you see no benefit to self-sacrifice? Certainly no benefit to oneself from a "rational" point of view, but how about from the POV of society? Take, for example, the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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