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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:32:50 GMT
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jsproat@io.^antispam^com
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Erik Olson wrote:
> The whole debate between 'unweaned' and 'wiser' Christians about what we get for
> our works of righteousness, is first about Original Sin. And it's never settled
> because happy people don't buy it. If you didn't consider every one guilty by
> nature, you might have been able to make some progress in bettering mankind.
It's funny you mention that. An article of my church's faith declares that
"we belive that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's
transgression."
> Christianity perpetuates ignorance about what the good life is,
What then is the good life? Can you tell me that? Can anyone truthfully
answer that question for anyone but themselves? It is not my place to tell
you what you need to live the good life; nor is it your place to tell me.
> and
> raises its children up to be bigots, sloths, mindless drones and worse, which it
> is powerless to prevent except by making people feel *guilty* by threatening
> God's judgment.
Hmmm.
Forgive me, but I feel that I must distance myself from what your definition
of a Christian is. I am most certainly a bigot; I challenge you to show me
someone who is without bias.
...Sloths, mindless drones and worse, heh heh heh. This is a troll, right?
> If someone seems to be leading a good life, you notify them that
> they're going to burn in hell if they don't make changes. This phenomenon is the
> first clue that the whole Judeo-Christian tradition is *part of the problem on
> Earth*. And there isn't anywhere else that matters.
I see. I take it that you've never met a Jew or Christian who's had a
positive influence in your life?
I agree that people thumping their chests and proclaiming themselves to be
"Christians" and trying to force you to change your life into something your
experience tells you is bad, are fairly annoying. So would anyone thumping
their chests and proclaiming themselves to be anything and trying to force you
to change your life into something your experience tells you is bad. But
please don't let this experience bias you against Christianity or Judaism or
whatever. You're only reacting to the loud people. Give the quiet ones the
benefit of the doubt.
Cheers,
- jsproat
--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@io.com> ~~~ http://www.io.com/~jsproat/
Card-carrying member of the Star-Bellied Sneech Preservation Society
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Message has 5 Replies:
 | | 1. Vs. Original Sin
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| (...) I don't recall such a thing in any other creed. Is this article of faith meant to quibble with or clarify Paul? Not sure myself whether Paul is as important to Mormons, as he is to say Lutherans or Baptists (who make a very big deal out of (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | 2. The Good Life
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| (...) The Good Life. Aristotle said the good life was to become happy by pursuing the best goals, that is, to excel in whatever you are capable of. To be the best example of what you are. That you are the purpose of your own life, there is no higher (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | 4. Why are some nonbelievers admirable people?
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| (...) I'm not going to debate this, because there have been a lot. Just like the Christian has to ask "Why are some atheists, Mormons and Jews decent people?" (DUCK NOW!) the atheist wonders "Why are some Christians good people?" The reality is most (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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| It's gotten quiet here, and we're off the lugnet.homepage. I'm going to see if anything runs out of the bushes when I do this... All this splitting hairs & quoting Paul to rule on whether a sinner can be saved and get away with sinning.... I sure (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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